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OJani
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26 Jun 2012, 9:42 am

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26 Jun 2012, 9:47 am

Yeah, culturally being a man requires more leaving of childhood than being a woman. It's a major part of why I could never have many serious guy friends.


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26 Jun 2012, 9:51 am

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Yeah, culturally being a man requires more leaving of childhood than being a woman. It's a major part of why I could never have many serious guy friends.

And the reason why the 'average' Aspie male often fails at romantic relationships.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:37 pm

I know that ever since I was a young kid, I never really had any concept of things like gender. It carried over into my gender identity and my sexual orientation - I am not attracted to physical bodies or specific genitals, I am attracted to minds. From the time I was small, I was playing around with my gender expression, something I still do to this day. I fall under the 'transgender' umbrella, but I dislike labels. I wish I could be referred to with Spivak pronouns on a daily basis instead of things like "he" or "she". I would like to just be seen as a person, an individual, rather than a man or a woman - if I had to select a label, it would be androgyne.

I thought I was just bizarre on my own for a long time, but I think my gender identity is closely related to my autism. Probably moreso than I realized.



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26 Jun 2012, 8:56 pm

Teuthida wrote:
I know that ever since I was a young kid, I never really had any concept of things like gender. It carried over into my gender identity and my sexual orientation - I am not attracted to physical bodies or specific genitals, I am attracted to minds. From the time I was small, I was playing around with my gender expression, something I still do to this day. I fall under the 'transgender' umbrella, but I dislike labels. I wish I could be referred to with Spivak pronouns on a daily basis instead of things like "he" or "she". I would like to just be seen as a person, an individual, rather than a man or a woman - if I had to select a label, it would be androgyne.


I'm curious why you'd find yourself closest to androgyne instead of something like agender while using the description "ever really had any concept of things like gender".

(I have absolutely no concept of gender, and tend to have the descriptions like "not agender because agender is still a gender, genderqueer, on the female side of neutral" applied to me).



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26 Jun 2012, 9:13 pm

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Teuthida wrote:
I know that ever since I was a young kid, I never really had any concept of things like gender. It carried over into my gender identity and my sexual orientation - I am not attracted to physical bodies or specific genitals, I am attracted to minds. From the time I was small, I was playing around with my gender expression, something I still do to this day. I fall under the 'transgender' umbrella, but I dislike labels. I wish I could be referred to with Spivak pronouns on a daily basis instead of things like "he" or "she". I would like to just be seen as a person, an individual, rather than a man or a woman - if I had to select a label, it would be androgyne.


I'm curious why you'd find yourself closest to androgyne instead of something like agender while using the description "ever really had any concept of things like gender".

(I have absolutely no concept of gender, and tend to have the descriptions like "not agender because agender is still a gender, genderqueer, on the female side of neutral" applied to me).


That's a fair question, and something I'm not sure of myself. Agender is a little more complex to explain to people, I find - even other transgender people insist that I must have some sort of gender identity, whereas the term "androgyne" conjures up images associated with the word "androgynous", making it easier for people to grasp. I also do enjoy sometimes playing around with my expression and showing myself off in a way that reads masculine or feminine according to society. Of course, agender individuals do that too.

Good lord, gender is weird.


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26 Jun 2012, 10:34 pm

Phew, long test but I finally got my results. Good test though.

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 475, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Quite Female

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Female person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
No conflicts, you appear to fully accept your physical sex and gender identity.
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Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.



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01 Jul 2012, 7:08 pm

Well I took the test randomly guessing the picture questions that crash my browser and the result:

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S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 305, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Androgynous

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have major conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
Male to Female Transsexual in doubt about your ability to successfully transition.
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Your answers indicate you have altered your physical appearance to look like the opposite sex.
Your answers about your sexual orientation were contradictory. .


I have no doubt about my ability to transform I have been successfully female for decades and still think it to be the best thing I ever did.


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01 Jul 2012, 10:16 pm

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
Yeah, culturally being a man requires more leaving of childhood than being a woman. It's a major part of why I could never have many serious guy friends.


:roll:

Uh-huh. Sure.

Anyway, I'm agendered.


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01 Jul 2012, 11:22 pm

S.A.G.E. Test Results

Your Raw Score is: 420, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Feminine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male possible Transsexual
???

Edit: I am happy with my gender. I think it would be fun to be able to be masculine sometimes. When I was a kid, I used to dream about being James bond--he has all the fun.

But..hm. I don't want to be transsexual because I make a better looking woman.



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02 Jul 2012, 12:01 am

i had some the issues others had with the test redirecting itself. i gave up after 3 tries. i also found the test kind of unpleasant. i had to fudge a lot of the answers because there wasn't an option that was appropriate.

personally, i would say that i'm physically female. mentally, somewhere in between. i get along much better with me and always have. i have little interest in stereotypically female interests.

from what i've read about autistic women, this isn't unusual.


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02 Jul 2012, 12:04 am

Tuttle wrote:

(I have absolutely no concept of gender, and tend to have the descriptions like "not agender because agender is still a gender, genderqueer, on the female side of neutral" applied to me).


Hmm, "agender" isn't a gender. That's the point of the label. Are there people running around saying they're agender and that agender is an actual gender?



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02 Jul 2012, 1:44 am

Your Raw Score is: -440, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Feminine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Transsexual in doubt about your ability to successfully transition.
NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.

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Haha, I am not a female to male transsexual. I am taking this in the early hours of the morning, partially asleep, and many of the questions either did not have apt answers, or I just didn't know.
I'm a biological female, asexual. Technically, I would be "agender," but I am not so into labeling that I would bother identifying with that/explaining to bemused people. I couldn't care less what gender I am, except that in specific situations, being a certain gender might have advantages. I consider myself neutral as I don't try to be either, but I suppose I do naturally learn toward "masculine" brain processes and socializing.
It's somewhat interesting, but ultimately doesn't matter.



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02 Jul 2012, 3:20 am

Your Raw Score is: 400, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Quite Female

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.



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02 Jul 2012, 3:01 pm

Quote:

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: -325, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
Male to Female Crossdresser
NOTES:

You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Female gender role.
Your answers indicate you may be AUTOGYNEPHILIC. Your answers indicate you may fit the following type(s):
Physiologic: arousal from the idea of having opposite sex physiology. This does not necessarily mean you WANT the physiology of the opposite sex, you just find the IDEA of it exciting.


What's anallophic? I identify as heterosexual. Also, I'm not actually a cross dresser, though I have cross dressed on numerous occasions in theater. As a note, I couldn't accurately answer a lot of the questions, so I answered the middle option for them.


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02 Jul 2012, 3:24 pm

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What's anallophic? I identify as heterosexual. Also, I'm not actually a cross dresser, though I have cross dressed on numerous occasions in theater. As a note, I couldn't accurately answer a lot of the questions, so I answered the middle option for them.


I don't know, a web search didn't reveal much. I only posted half my results because I think the rest of it is gobbledegook. I answered as though I didn't because I only did so for safety reasons, but I've crossdressed too. When I was younger I had to ride my bicycle late at night and I figured I would draw less attention and be safer if I looked like a male young teenage punk instead of a 85 lb. young lady so before leaving I'd transform.