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FalsettoTesla
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05 Aug 2012, 5:34 pm

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I find it silly when people are mindlessly against the puzzle piece logo.


I do not think anyone here 'mindlessly' declared dislike for it.


I'm not saying that people here are doing so mindlessly. I'm saying it bothers me when people do so mindlessly or only because organizations are supportive of it. People can in fact dislike it and have this be reasonable. However, there have been people mindlessly being against it on wrongplanet before.

Not liking the implication of being compared to a puzzle to be solved - sure that's reasonable. I don't find the same implication to be there, but if people find it then its reasonable for them to not like it. But not liking it because autism speaks likes it is silly. Or not liking it because its the popular symbol is silly. Or not liking it because people in the autism community don't like it is silly. I've seen all three of those.


Personally, I can see why some people would not like it bring connected to autism on a whole expressly because Autism Speaks uses it if they disagree with the message, methods and mindset of the organisation.

Although I apologise that if I seemed defensive/snippy. I didn't realise that you were commenting on a wider situation, rather than just replying to this thread. That was short sighted of me.



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05 Aug 2012, 6:05 pm

When I saw the rainbow puzzle twist I though it was for gay pride, they have the whole spectrum thing pretty much dominated. Instead of a puzzle wouldn't something like a Penrose triangle fit better?



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05 Aug 2012, 6:09 pm

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I'm sick of logos.

Aspies have been known to struggle to understand emotion.

(that is a joke based on the Greek word "logos")



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05 Aug 2012, 6:57 pm

Meh, the puzzle piece is okay. I don't think the Autism community needs a logo, though.



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05 Aug 2012, 7:14 pm

I like the design. To me, my brain is a bit of a puzzle. I like trying to figure it out :)

I have a sticker on my chair of a ribbon with the multicolored puzzle pattern on it.


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05 Aug 2012, 7:29 pm

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Image

Perfect reaction image


So, it's not the person speaking, but autism actually speaking? :?


Yup. And every time someone makes a huge post about something irrelevant.... :twisted:

..what?? Only because I'm autistic doesn't mean I can't make autism-jokes.



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05 Aug 2012, 8:58 pm

What's stupid is that Autism Speaks has been shutting up autistics who disagree with them as long as they've been around. It's frustrating. They've got so much money, such a wide audience--they could really do some good. And they squander it on scare tactics, fear-and-pity "awareness", high-class celebrity fundraisers, and scientists who like picking apart our DNA instead of figuring out how to actually help us in the real world.

It's like, the second we're too old to be cute, the second we speak up for ourselves, the second we do anything besides being pitiful victims or inspirational success stories, Autism Speaks no longer wants to represent us. They only want the cute little poster kids, and even the poster kids aren't getting anything out of it.


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06 Aug 2012, 12:19 am

I don't like it much. Although you could see it as representing how we see the world, I don't think it's usually viewed that way - rather, we're the puzzle (broken, missing pieces, needing to be figured out and fixed). Objects, not subjects.
I would like butterflies even less, though. I'm a lepidopterophobe.



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06 Aug 2012, 12:27 am

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It doesn't mean anything to me.

It's kinda ugly.


Agree but its not like i can think of a better one. today at wal-mart by the back to school stuff i saw a rack full of "autism speaks" stuff like pens, note pads and such. I walked away as fast as possible.



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06 Aug 2012, 1:19 am

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I don't like the puzzle piece logo. I'm not a puzzle. Autism may be an intriguing scientific challenge, but so is every other disorder out there that hasn't been fully described. I don't have any pieces missing; I'm different, but I'm okay the way I am.

The primary challenge of autism is to find a way to teach and include children with autism so that they grow up to be happy, competent autistic adults. The puzzle piece logo just says too much about people having to fix us or put us together.

agreed. the only thing a puzzle piece says to me is that we have a missing piece. i don't like logos in general. too corporate. and when i see it i think Autism Speaks. i suspect they didnt use the puzzle because puzzles are a source of fun and joy and can be quite engaging. i do not wish to be associated with them.



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06 Aug 2012, 2:22 am

Heh. Heh. Heh.

I liked the corners best- few, crucial, and still very much a part of the rest.

Different in a good way.



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06 Aug 2012, 5:56 am

I understand why a lot of people don't like what the puzzle piece can potentially represent. I used to feel exactly the same way. But over time I've come to actually really like it - Firstly, I like puzzles. Really, really like them. Both the kind that are made of cardboard and have a picture on them, and also the type that involves life*. Solving puzzles keeps life interesting.

Secondly, instead of seeing the puzzle piece as indicating that I'm a puzzle myself, I see it as the final puzzle piece to be fit into a full understanding of myself. Something like "oh! that's why I act/thing like that!" Autism is the missing puzzle piece I've been looking for for so long.

Finally, the human brain in general is so incredibly poorly understood that it's exciting to see the developments in science trying to understand it. And just as we're so incredibly behind in understanding glial cells compared with neurons, we're also behind in understanding the autistic brain compared with NTs. As a former neuroscientist I'm biased, I'm sure, but the puzzle piece symbolises for me a quest for knowledge and understanding far more than it denotes hostile confusion.

Again, I get why some are against what the symbol can represent, and I've certainly heard many explanations of it that is at the least humorous and at the most offensive, but people are going to be ignorant or offensive anyway, regardless of what symbol is used.

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06 Aug 2012, 6:02 am

Is it copyrighted? Or is it only the Autism Speaks version that is copyrighted?



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06 Aug 2012, 12:01 pm

bnky wrote:
Is it copyrighted? Or is it only the Autism Speaks version that is copyrighted?


I don't think so.



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06 Aug 2012, 2:22 pm

I'm neutral about the puzzle pieces - although I do hate their colors.



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06 Aug 2012, 9:55 pm

Atomsk wrote:
I'm neutral about the puzzle pieces - although I do hate their colors.


What colors would you choose instead?