In general, how do Aspies turn out as adults?

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How do we end up living?
Sad, lonely life 32%  32%  [ 42 ]
Alone and happy 30%  30%  [ 39 ]
Normal, like every one else 20%  20%  [ 26 ]
Sucessful, maybe rich 10%  10%  [ 13 ]
Taken care of our entire lives 8%  8%  [ 10 ]
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15 Aug 2012, 1:36 pm

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That's exactly were the problem comes. The thing is that when aspies become independent it's usually later than NTs, so 20 vs 30 makes all the difference. Also, support definately does make a difference, and with the later generations there is more support. In the very least I'm trying to be optimistic.


Eh, I don't see the "bad" outcomes as actually "bad" unless you want those things that normal people do. I would bet that individuals with an ASD are relatively happy with these circumstances if they're free to pursue their interests--problems happen when these individuals want what normal people want, of course, and there's plenty out there who want such (they're unlucky), but then, that's what a disability is.

I agree in that there might be a difference in functioning between 20 and 30, but I also agree that people with an ASD can actually become worst as they get older (some get a little better, some get a little worst).

However, I think that needing support to get somewhere isn't really of much worth; it has nothing to do with the actual disorder, rather how much people do for you. If someone buys a person with AS a house and gives them a job (with all the allowances needed), then they're automatically functioning "well". Too bad if this wasn't given to them then they're "bad".



That's not what I meant by support. I meant more like counsuling, education, and employment opportunities, stuff like that.


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15 Aug 2012, 1:55 pm

It is a pity I can't select two options:
Alone and happy
Successful, maybe rich

Both apply to me to a certain extent. I can deal with people without too many problems and I have a good job (self employed) that is enjoyable and pays very well. On the minus side I have very little social life, have never been in a relationship and anxiety is pretty much a constant companion. The social/relationship issues don't really bother me much these days.


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16 Mar 2014, 4:24 am

I am 32 and have voted for alone and happy. I am single no children never married and can hold a steady job have trouble making friends and being in relationships I have in the past been sad and lonely.

I am an intelligent adult but lack social skills and have been employed steadily having had a few problems with working with others in the workplace over the years due to my social skills deficit and have more of a social life nowadays compared to a few years ago and can live alone I live away from my family and am a very independent woman.

I have in the past few years made progress socially especially in making friends in the relationship department I don't do well but I don't dwell on it and it doesn't bother me if I am single. I am alone but not lonely in that regard so have achieved some success even though it has been a real struggle.



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16 Mar 2014, 5:25 am

I could not answer the question because it has varied so greatly at different stages of my life. I have been near "normal" both to the outside and inside, sad and lonely, functioning but unhappy, not functional and unhappy

Nowadays based on what society judges I am dysfunctional in a lot of ways living at home, no romantic sex life etc, no job but decently happy. I am still at home but I getting satisfaction in helping my parents with their aging issues, and since getting diagnosed last year getting great satisfaction in finding out who I am and being that person.

I AM STILL HERE. That is a accomplishment. While realistically my goals of getting back in the employment game in a way that satisfies me and allows me to feel financially comfortable are really low if I am alive their is a chance.

I haven't said this before because I don't know how people will take it, but the people I admire most here are the ones who have brutalized their entire life in ways beyond what I can imagine and are here to tell the tail. It just know if it was me that led your life I would have succumbed a long long time ago, likely dead,or so screwed up that in no way would I have the ability to post here. Yes you are damaged and damaged greatly in many cases and some of you are bitter and "whine" sometimes, but you are here and accomplishing things. I don't know how you did it but I am privileged to know you.


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16 Mar 2014, 10:33 am

I am married and have two kids. I also have a job. My husband is a loner too and also has no friends like me. Anxiety makes it harder for me so my husband takes care of things because I find it so overwhelming.


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16 Mar 2014, 9:59 pm

Self picked 'taken care of entire life'. I am happy though, so far have intensive support to work on living skills.


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16 Mar 2014, 10:10 pm

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53 years old. I cannot poke either first or second choice. Sad, lonely life. Alone and happy. Both.


I answered alone and happy, which is the majority of the time, but have many times of loneliness too.



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17 Mar 2014, 8:54 am

I vote for "sad, lonely life." I might have voted for "alone and happy" but that depends on finding a way to be happy knowing you'll never have much of a peer group in your life.

I want companionship. Not a huge group, but some people I interact with meaningfully on a regular basis. I'd also like to have purpose...so that it's easier to cope with not having much of a social life.



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17 Mar 2014, 8:08 pm

Not like everybody else but happy, regardless. :)


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17 Mar 2014, 8:13 pm

At home/in government housing, usually unemployed (underemployed when employed), with few or no friends.



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17 Mar 2014, 8:29 pm

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Behind the scenes - severe anxiety, shutdowns, isolation, fatigue from faking it/dealing with people, no friends, distanced from family (various reasons, my choice), Hate leaving the house and going anywhere - dealing with daily life stuff is very very hard. Often I'm unhappy and keep chasing the next thing that will make me happy.


What you describe has been said by a lot of NTs I know/have known. They feel they're faking it/hiding behind a mask. It seems to be an incredibly common experience. Also your remark about chasing the next thing reminds me of what Schopenhauer said about Will being the cause of all human suffering. That once we get what we want we still find ourselves unhappy, and yet keep striving for something more.



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17 Mar 2014, 9:48 pm

Dillogic wrote:
At home/in government housing, usually unemployed (underemployed when employed), with few or no friends.


This is probably the most accurate answer to the thread title question.



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17 Mar 2014, 10:30 pm

Honestly, I'm 20 years old and I hate adult life. The only thing I like about it is being able to buy my own booze. I hated adolescence as well, and honestly, if I had things my way, I would have quit aging at 10 years old. That was the peak of my life, when I had just the right balance of rights and responsibilities.



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18 Mar 2014, 1:31 am

Sadly I had to pick the first. It was that way for me for a long time, but I'm pretty happy with my life now. I don't think it's inescapable though. It just takes a lot more effort for people on the spectrum. But IMO that can be a good thing because the harder you work for something the more you appreciate it. When you finally do develop some intimate friendships and hopefully even a love interest, you have a lot to give, and it has a lot more novelty to it than it probably does for people who just have such relationships fall in their lap.


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18 Mar 2014, 2:08 am

I chose "alone and happy", meaning, that a large portion of aspies will be living alone, - partly because of their social dyslexia. By happy, I mean, that most aspies have trouble and unhappy times, when others just seem to swim easily through social life and they end up living alone, maybe with an animal - but absorbed by their interests, which they my make their work. That is a form of happiness.


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18 Mar 2014, 5:19 pm

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There have been a few long-term outcome studies, mostly on the original patients that Asperger and Kanner studied. Results are widely varied. Some are married, some single; some are employed in high-level jobs, others have a spotty employment history; a few can't work at all; a few still live with family or in institutions. On average, it seems like autistic people who are relatively independent (can do own ADLs, can communicate at will) are living about as well as the average disabled person does. We're more often unemployed or underemployed, but also more likely to have college degrees. What part of this is due to poor access to services, and what part of it is intrinsic to autism, is anybody's guess. But I'm willing to bet that most of the disadvantages that autistic people struggle against today can be entirely removed by adjusting our culture so that autistics and other neurodiverse people have a place in it.

With the small amount of data I can scrape together, my best guess is that we tend toward the usual ups-and-downs lives that people in general have; that like most minorities, we struggle with prejudice and receive fewer opportunities than most people; but that, like for disabled people in general, life seems to be getting steadily better, so that the social problems our parents had to deal with are things that our children may never even see.


^THAT [ as long as we as Autistics do most of the "leg work."