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04 Dec 2006, 1:59 pm

138 and I SUCK at math.



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04 Dec 2006, 5:42 pm

I'm sure people have stated so, but the I.Q. tests are outdated and only tests certain criteria.. Don't think of it.

Everyone has the potential of learning and anyone can learn anything.. as soon as you think 'well, I can't learn 'such and such'' you probably wont - thats called a mental block and you do it to yourself..

I'm learning guitar and people tell me that I'll never compare to Randy Rhoads or any other great guitarist.. I ask 'Why not? When they were 4 they didnt have a guitar or any ability then they learned it'.. Granted, if I dont practice I may never be as good but there should be little reason why I cannot eventually get to their level or close to it.. its all practice and understanding and keeping 'the sky as the limit' idea in your brain.. Besides, I've yet to not exceed in something I love or try at. MY problem is finding things that I love or are worth trying in the first place! :roll:



04 Dec 2006, 5:47 pm

I do bad on IQ tests. I score low, lower than my IQ really is. That's why i don't ever do any. I think it has to do with the questions and all and because they are abstract, it is way beyond on how my mind works. Give a abstract thinker an IQ test that has a list of concrete questions and answers, they'll probably do bad on it too because they were thinking too hard and not taking the questions in a way they were asked, but insteasd took it another way because they were thinking outside the box. Or give a illidarate person a IQ test and it requires reading, they'll score low too. Give a concrete thinker an abstract test, they will do bad on it also.



I suck at math too. My math is below the age level. I never did high school math when I was there. I never did the classes either. My math was done in special ed and I was given different math like with money and all and about checks and balancing a checkbook.


I suck in school so much because almost all the work is hard so I need extra help with it, I decided not to go to college or I'd struggle too and not maybe get the work done. My work needed to be modified when I was in high school. That's why I envy aspies whom can do school work like everyone else who don't have such a brick mind like I do. I used to think I was LD also but now I'm not so sure. Sure the work is hard but it's because it's all abstract.



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04 Dec 2006, 6:03 pm

Hmm I wouldn't say my IQ is all that high. I get 112 on the online test at Tickle, but I doubt it's very accurate. I also did one that was on tv, and only got average. It may have to do with me not being so great at tests, or losing patience. I often give up on the math-related questions and make my best guess. I don't think I was ever given IQ tests as a kid either. Also I don't think those tests are a real good measure of intelligence.


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04 Dec 2006, 8:55 pm

Where do you take an IQ test? I've taken online ones and they are always different. I will range from 117-148?? Obviously these online tests are not reliable.


Where can I take a reliable IQ test?


Though, I'm terrified to find out my IQ score. I know my father is a genius... I think his IQ is 155... and come to think of it he fits a lot of symptoms of Asperger's. But anyway... no matter how many times people tell me I'm above average... what if they're wrong? I have no clue if I'm smart because I never TRIED in school.

The only thing I am certain I excel at is English. I have a large vocabulary and great writing skills etc. That's about it though.



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04 Dec 2006, 9:08 pm

If you ask me, the IQ is not the most accurate way to measure intelligence. There will be things you are good at and things you are not. For example, I am great at Music but I haven't seen many IQ tests that test your skills at playing an instrument. Yet I am able to have my other skills such as Mathematics tested.

billiscool wrote:
I've taken many IQ test in my life, either on the computers or
in school. Im usually around 105 to 115 range.One thing I've notice
is that so many aspie folks have IQ of 130 or higher. They seem to be
very good at math and science, yet I am very poor at math and science.

I recently checked my file and I was diagnose as aspergers. What I don't understand
is if I have aspergers why am I so ''dumb'' at the things aspies are traditional good at.
Or perhaps this is just a sterotype of aspie folks.
This has been bothering me for awhile, Thanks.

edit
I pretty sure I most likely suffer from Learning disabilty.
both as and LD have similiar condition so they can easy
get confuse



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04 Dec 2006, 9:27 pm

A high IQ in specific areas usually comes with a price.

Im kind of living proof of that.

I had a college reading level at 6 years old but couldnt speak even though my IQ was off the scale. Now Im 27 and if I have to keep up a high school verbal vocabulary level for long I get a headache and eventually pass out :P

I can read and write at 80+ words per minute using an above college level vocabulary and concepts as others here can attest but in order to speak out loud at that level it can take me 5 minutes per sentence, pausing between words.

Most of us with high intelligence would sometimes rather not have it.

Its not all wine and roses you know.. especially when you reach the level where you realize that the only reason to live is to pursue your desires but all desires are ultimately pointless (therefore leaving you without a reason to live) and you understand so much theres no mystery left in life it can start to suck pretty badly.

Just keep in mind that by definition half the worlds population are of below average intelligence and it stands to reason the same 50/50 ratio holds true for autistics as well.


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04 Dec 2006, 9:36 pm

GOD! I know things they will probably NEVER test for in an IQ test. Even ASVAB only tested SOME concepts(it isn't an IQ test though).

Tests really aren't very good if they are subjective. If they ask a question a creature must answer, they will be ineffective, because the person could do it better next time. HECK, I once took an MCSD test. There was only ONE book on the planet that could provide the information it tested, and that book was incomplete. I actually took it with me to the test site, and checked it after I took the test. My memory on all this stuff was almost perfect, and my average score was in the high 90s On THIS test, I got only high 60s! I studied more, and tried to get info on questions I remembered.

You know what? The stupid test asked the REVERSE of all the questions!

what is equal to B became what is NOT equal to B!

If I hadn't noticed, I could have flunked! If I had all the quetions, and they were VALID, I could have gotten 100% As it was, I got like 80% which was over the 70% or so required.

BTW a few months after I got my MCSD, they SCRAPED those tests! The new battery had totally different tests.

So no, I don't think a test should be taken THAT seriously. If you can do what you have to, REALLY want to, and need to do, you should be fine, RIGHT?

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04 Dec 2006, 10:03 pm

What exactly does IQ measure? Learning capacity? Learning ability? The comprehension of certain concepts?

I took a more 'official' IQ test today and got 133. It said I was great at understanding patterns. So what? What does that tell me? Haha. :roll:

I suppose I may have a 'high IQ'. But I feel like and idiot. I always have so much trouble concentrating! Especially at work. I make the stupidest mistakes over and over (I'm a banker, I work with numbers), and yet my Intellectual Type is scored as a Visual Mathematician. Ironic, I think.

I thought Math was my weak point? Or perhaps I just can't concentrate most of the time. Then there is always the fact that I never did my homework or listened in Math class... so I really have never reached my potential. *shrugs*



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05 Dec 2006, 12:28 am

An IQ test is designed to gauge a persons general capacity for symbolic logic.

Most tests add in general knowledge, verbal skills, etc but since such things are highly dependant on environment and education they are more to gauge a persons current capability rather than their maximum capacity.


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06 Dec 2006, 9:05 pm

IQ tests are a good way of measuring parts of intelligence, but there are so many different kinds of intelligence. If all my different types of intelligence were equal to my ability at math, I would probably be ret*d, or at least learning disabled. Basically, I cannot generalize from one math problem to the next in multi step problems. But I have an IQ of at least 120, I don't remember exactly as I was tested when I was younger. I also am good at abstract thought.



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07 Dec 2006, 8:42 am

billiscool wrote:
I've taken many IQ test in my life, either on the computers or
in school. Im usually around 105 to 115 range.One thing I've notice
is that so many aspie folks have IQ of 130 or higher. They seem to be
very good at math and science, yet I am very poor at math and science.

I recently checked my file and I was diagnose as aspergers. What I don't understand
is if I have aspergers why am I so ''dumb'' at the things aspies are traditional good at.
Or perhaps this is just a sterotype of aspie folks.
This has been bothering me for awhile, Thanks.

edit
I pretty sure I most likely suffer from Learning disabilty.
both as and LD have similiar condition so they can easy
get confuse


Your LD is probably making it harder to test your IQ accurately. Especially if it occurs in fields that tend to be tested on in general intelligence tests.


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07 Dec 2006, 9:20 am

I hadn't thought about it, but sophist may be right.

The brain is almost like your heart. There is a lot of innate potential, but it is hard to exercise, and can't do much unless you exercise something else. In the brains case it is cooperation in both sides of the brain, the amygdalae and the hippocampus. If you get enough nutrition, and try to study something that takes some time or effort(Exercises the amygdalae and the hippocampus), and try to vsualize(exercises cooperation), it will help everything else. You MIGHT even get rid of that learning disorder. Even any dyslexia you have may seem to dissappear. AND, if you use something you can use, like math or a language, you kill two birds with one stone!

Heck, I think I got back that childlike love of learning finally. I'm studying 3 languages(daily. Hopefully next week I can study the other 3), boning up on math(which I guess I wasn't quite so bad in after all, or maybe doing everything else helped it), and even trying to go through my life, and see if I can plot every somewhat meaningful event. I haven't even turned on the TV today. I usually do that by HABIT!

Who knows, I might even take another official IQ test, just to see if it improves. 8-)

HECK, I might even make don lancasters money machine! It is the BEST machine ever made, and it is SO easy to do! You need a tv, ruler, and scissors! You measure exactly 12 inches fro the plug on the cord, and cut it with the scissors! THEN, you through both pieces out!

Steve



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07 Dec 2006, 10:11 am

I score between 120 and 130 on IQ tests. I'm generally pretty poor at maths, although I usually do well on most of the 'sequence' questions involving numbers or images ("Which of the following logically follows next in the sequence?") - I suppose that's an AS thing, seeing patterns.



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07 Dec 2006, 12:21 pm

I just got the results of my (official) IQ test today. I got 129, one point away from being "gifted." The important thing about mine is the difference between my verbal and performance IQ's: I got 143 on verbal, 117 on performance. The woman who proctored it said, "There's something going on, an obvious right hemisphere deficit." Surprise, surprise. I've long suspected that I have Nonverbal Learning Disorder. I'm always in the 98th percentile for verbal abilities and the 60-70th for performance/visual-spatial/math abilities. I only score as highly as I do for visual-spatial abilities because I compensate for it with my memory and verbal abilities.
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07 Jan 2007, 3:34 am

Highest I've ever scored is 153, but usually tend to get around 140.