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07 Dec 2006, 4:03 pm

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Hmm interesting theory. Maybe non-NT women tend to not to dress , style hair and use make up as much as NT girls. I looked at old photo's at my highschool of women in the 1940's or so and the hair style and lack of makeup did not look attractive to me(note these were goodlooking cheerleader photos!). Though your likely basing your
whole theory on a small town with a small class size. And what if ASD has a 4:1 male:female ratio. And what if you are slightly underating women. From a math point of view it means your observation maybe meaningless.


It depends though on how much pressure you feel to fit in. When I was in junior high I can still even remember the outfit I wore to see this psychiatrist and laugh that was probably a big clue right there. I wore the clothes I LIKED - didn't matter if they matched or not (or at least I thought they matched in my own special way). So in a way I can't exactly fault some of those who used to tease me. However in the 9th grade I was better at matching of course but still not pulling a coordinated look together yet I made friends with a girl who was kind of an outsider for other reasons (her parents were alcoholics). So she helped me in a nice way and then once I got into figuring out what to do I actually was considered attractive. Which caused problems because I would get asked out but still didn't have any social skills when it came to figuring out dating or a relationship.



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07 Dec 2006, 4:11 pm

I think I personally have always been more attracted to women with aspie-like traits.

Do you really think there are some physical attributes that only aspie women would have that would make them less attractive? Or would the difference be more in overall carriage, a subtle one attributable to lack of fluency in body language?


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07 Dec 2006, 4:19 pm

JJ,

I feel the SAME way! Hearing how some attractive AS Women here think, it would be a DREAM COME TRUE! Now if only I could find a way to meet some, hopefully close to where I am! Maybe we'll hit it off. At least I could get some nice friends that I can respect, etc...

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07 Dec 2006, 4:32 pm

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JJ,

I feel the SAME way! Hearing how some attractive AS Women here think, it would be a DREAM COME TRUE! Now if only I could find a way to meet some, hopefully close to where I am! Maybe we'll hit it off. At least I could get some nice friends that I can respect, etc...

Steve


Maybe I could dress up?

No, wait....

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And on another note, you've just hit 500 posts SteveK



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07 Dec 2006, 6:01 pm

Sorry JJ,

I'm straight.(Naw, I figured you were joking, but I figured I would say it anyway)

STILL, I am open to just a friendship, with either sex. I WOULD have already tried to organize all the people near me(In a group of sorts), but it seems like everyone on this board that is clearly in the state I am in is a teenager. I certainly have NOTHING against teenagers(as normal friends), but it wouldn't seem right, so I won't even approach them.

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07 Dec 2006, 6:52 pm

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IM not trying to be rude. But I've rarely seen any good looking
aspie/hfa females or females with any type of learning/social disabilty in my life.
when in school and out of school.most females I've seen with disability are generally
not attractive, most of them ( in my opinion) are ''under average looking'' or hate to say
it ''ugly''. Yet alot men I see with as/hfa are usually ''average'' looking and few good looking.
and for me, most folks says Im average looking,and few say good looking but to the most
average looking. maybe here in oregon,the ''hot'' aspie/hfa girls are not around.


In terms of physical appearance, Aspie women can take just as many shapes and forms as NT women. I have a few AS female friends who are obese, and another that is as close to Pamela Anderson as one can get without implants.

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08 Dec 2006, 10:50 am

I'm curious, do we not hear from the 'unattractive' aspie females because confidence is a factor?
Aspies seem to be similar in that they have diminished social confidence. Being attractive and receiving positive responses to that would slightly boost confidence - would being unattractive and being treated that way cause the ladies to hide from view completely?



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08 Dec 2006, 11:31 am

cheesecheese,

Considering the title, I doubt that a female will answer unless she is confident that she is at least plain(I consider plain to be almost in the middle. Certainly not ugly, but maybe not singled out for a compliment either). I'm sure that being AS(I'll try to stop saying having, because it really IS part of who you are) means that they won't be confident unless they can objectively view themselves, or a couple unrelated people gave them an unsolicited positive comment.

ALSO, there might be some VERY attractive people that don't respond because they didn't see this, or don't feel a need to. Actually, I don't see a problem with that. If a few people here can HONESTLY say they seem normal and are cute, it kind of blows the premise, the first poster had, away, doesn't it?

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08 Dec 2006, 12:00 pm

ive seen some hotties in OR... but you have to go to Eugene or Portland.... civilization.... eugene is a big college town too.... good mic of people from everywhere


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08 Dec 2006, 12:36 pm

I think I'm beautiful, and that's all that matters. I think I'm beautiful, because I get by more on my Personality, than I do on my looks.



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08 Dec 2006, 3:09 pm

Well, I never considered myself at all attractive or even plain looks-wise, but those who know me think I have a pretty cute personality :)

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I think I'm beautiful, and that's all that matters. I think I'm beautiful, because I get by more on my Personality, than I do on my looks


Well said! :) I feel the same way. I was always way more interested in just being myself and being comfortable than looking good, so I never really cared much about my hair or clothes and I only ever wore makeup for about two weeks when I was fourteen before realizing it was a waste of time and it felt strange. I imagine most guys probably find me homely as they have always seemed to be put off by me and certainly never gave me the once over or asked me out or anything like that. Most guys were at least polite enough not to make fun of me to my face (though I had some friends who got made fun of :x ) but I'm sure I was laughed at and the butt of many jokes. It bothered me when I realized that worse than average (or in some cases even worse than stellar) looks were a dealbreaker for most guys, but it would have made me too uncomfortable to change my looks just because of that, and I didn't want a guy like that anyway-even if it meant being alone. Fortunately, I don't have to be, and I actually didn't have to wait that long to find someone who didn't care about that stuff. I know it's natural and sometimes can't be helped and all that, but it hurt just the same and it still makes me angry to think of all the great girls out there who get rejected and called names and taken advantage of and are made to feel worthless because of the way they look, and well, I hate to say it and I don't mean to offend, but, natural or not, I still think the whole fixation on looks is just shallow and dumb. Maybe it's just because I've seen and experienced firsthand how crappy it can make people feel and it's made me angry, or maybe I'm just stubborn and proud, I don't know, but I can't help thinking that way. It's a bit of a sore spot with me in case you haven't noticed :wink:



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08 Dec 2006, 6:28 pm

People who know me say I'm pretty. I think I'm average looking with a nice body.


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09 Dec 2006, 9:56 am

I have been told I'm attractive. That's why I started a thread in the dating and relationship section because people would always ask me, "You are such a pretty girl. Why don't you have a boyfriend."

I had no problems getting guys to notice me. However, when they noticed my wierdness and social ineptedness (is that a word?), I would scare the guys off.



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09 Dec 2006, 12:29 pm

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I think Aspie girls are just much less likely to put a lot of effort into their appearance. I know I don't. I don't wear makeup, I wear comfortable clothes instead of "stylish" ones, don't wear jewelry, don't paint my nails, wear comfortable shoes, and don't style my hair. I brush it, but I don't own any "hair styling" things like hairspray or a hair dryer. Ok, I do own a hairdryer, but I've never used it on myself, it's for drying the cat when I give her a bath.


And I thought I was the only one who kept a hair-dryer solely for pet styling purposes. :lol: I use it on my dog after I bathe him if I'm going to be clipping him.

Seriously, feminine standards of beauty just demand too much work. I'm far too apathetic to deal with hair-dryers (particularly as the noise annoys me), jewelry (which I generally dislike the feel of), or those hideous torture devices known as heeled shoes. Don't get me started on make-up. :roll: I don't think I'm unattractive, although I do tend to look androgynous, due to my proclivity for baggy shirts and, especially in the winter, sweat-pants and sweatshirts.


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11 Dec 2006, 9:06 pm

billiscool wrote:
IM not trying to be rude. But I've rarely seen any good looking
aspie/hfa females ....

How would you know? At first impression, I think no-one thinks that good looking people are nerds. So if you see someone good looking you don't notice whether they have AS or HFA. Anyway, many of us seem to mask AS fairly well.

So you could meet a hot chick IRL, say someone that looks like hale_bopp and and think :o WOW :o and you would not notice she is a nerd (not that hale_bopp :heart: is a nerd) :lol:


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11 Dec 2006, 9:42 pm

People tell me that I am pretty.

I don't care about my looks though...well...I mean I don't want to look like a garbage truck hit me...but I have never really cared about physical beauty.


Except when I'm having a depressive attack,and just want something to b***h about. :lol:



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