Are there Aspies that CAN read body language?

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24 Feb 2013, 11:43 pm

I can read body language to at least some extent--typically the more obvious cues, or when I know the context. I seem to be blind to at least some body language, though. Like, if you were to point someone out to me and tell me "that person looks stressed" or "he looks relaxed" or something, I wouldn't have any idea of what you're referring to. I think to some extent I have difficulty picking up on such things because I don't always pay attention to them or think to look for them.



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25 Feb 2013, 1:07 am

Another unofficial DX. Although I have a lot of the traits.


I read a lot about body language etc when I did 4 years of personal growth ( then year + later got ADHD DX with unofficial ASD, lol)

I've been very wary for few years now of others any way, due to the type of crowd I use to associate with (dangerous type)



BUT if I see somebody do a certain body language, and its a negative sign, I will BRING IT UP in conversation!! ! LOL!! !

Sometimes if I know them person well enough, ie will copy their body language in a dramatic silly way and have a certain look on face xD



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25 Feb 2013, 3:35 am

I happen to be an aspie who was born blind to body language. Well not a 100% blind. I found out I can read it if it's giving to me in a very strong dose. From what I've learned in the last few months of research is that reading body language is not something you learn to do( although you do learn to refine and make adjustments to it) . it's an instinct that you are ether born with or in the case with most aspies. born with less or without. One thing I've learned about reading body language is that it not an "active" process. it's a "passive" one. You are supposed to just look at someone and without you having to conscientiously think about it. A felling or an emotion is then conjure up. Your sub conscience mind is suppose to do all the analytical work for you.

Another thing I've learned about body language is that some aspies ( and even NT's for that matter) can read body language just fine. but it doesn't always conjure up the same felling or emotion as the other person projecting it intended it to be. It's like seeing the color red as blue.



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25 Feb 2013, 11:26 am

timatron wrote:
I've been diagnosed with ASD.

As a kid I was alright at reading others body language but on the other hand I was also a dunce at reading it. I was gullible often as well, I think since I couldn't realise others intentions.

Then I read every body language book under the sun and also pick up artist manuals, and it opened up a whole new world for me. In uni hot girls in my class I would talk to would comment that I never look at them.

Now I am better than NTs at reading others body language and intentions. And it has made everything WORSE!! Now I happen to notice every little movement and gesture in their whole body and I lose track of what is being said and as I try to look at their eyes everything becomes awkward and stupid!! !! Knowing what their body language means and what is expected in social interactions has made everything FAR FAR WORSE!! Since I can't respond fluidly and properly I'm always off, more than before because reading body language takes a huge chunk of executive function operations.

STAY AWAY FROM LEARNING BODY LANGUAGE IS MY ADVICE unless you have a powerful executive function


It's sounds like to me that you've learned to read body language in an "active" way. Real body language reading is meant to be a "passive" process. Because of AS. I too have to use the "active" process of body language reading. Active body language reading can be a real mental strain and causes delays in response because you have to conscientiously think about what the other person is telling (expressing) to you. But the real problem (as you said) is not interpreting it right. A single gesture or facial expression can have multiple meanings.



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13 Apr 2013, 2:01 pm

I can read body language if I'm comfortable enough to look at the person. I can even catch micro expressions. The problem is I often don't know why I'm getting the reaction if it's to something I've just said or did.


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13 Apr 2013, 2:50 pm

I know I can read very obvious body language or if it is a good friend or family member I can usually pick up on their body language much better than people who I do not know that well.


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13 Apr 2013, 3:16 pm

I continue to get better at reading them, I really don't have problems with this now except for once in a blue moon, in more specialized situations. I can remember more obliviousness and ambiguity when I was younger.



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13 Apr 2013, 3:20 pm

I have never had trouble reading body language. I guess that somewhat explains my NT score on the aspie quiz.


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13 Apr 2013, 3:49 pm

Andras wrote:
I have never had trouble reading body language. I guess that somewhat explains my NT score on the aspie quiz.


I've seen people say they don't like the Aspie score signatures because they feel like we're all entering ourselves in a contest, but I really appreciate them. When people give feedback like this and I can see the score, it helps me to get a clearer idea of where I am on the spectrum and how the symptoms change with severity. I'm starting to piece together an "ASD map" in my mind.

My score on the same was 109 Aspie, 102 NT I think. To clarify what I was saying previously, I didn't have so much trouble reading that people thought I was odd because of it, and it all flew under the radar. But I can remember a smattering of occasions when it made life difficult for me, and it really stood out when it came to romance. Specifically, I would never flirt back if I thought I might have been flirted with, because I wasn't sure I was interpreting it right and didn't want to create an awkward situation if I was wrong.



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13 Apr 2013, 4:17 pm

Interesting that you have issues with flirting. I am pretty good (I think) with reading body language, but this is one area that I know I struggled with. I would be accused of flirting when I was just being friendly, and conversely my friend would have to jab me in the ribs and say "he is sooo flirting with you", and I would have completely missed it. I guess flirting v friendly just doesn't compute in my brain.

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13 Apr 2013, 4:39 pm

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Interesting that you have issues with flirting. I am pretty good (I think) with reading body language, but this is one area that I know I struggled with. I would be accused of flirting when I was just being friendly, and conversely my friend would have to jab me in the ribs and say "he is sooo flirting with you", and I would have completely missed it. I guess flirting v friendly just doesn't compute in my brain.

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I could see how that could be a pattern among mild Aspies, where they have trouble with flirting but not so much other things. Flirting is definitely something I would put in the "specialized situations" or "advanced empathy" category. It was something I was rarely "called upon" to do and I didn't get much experience with it. And I definitely wasn't born knowing how to interpret the signals.

I think I have enough to go on now that I'm a functional flirtation interpreter, but "flirting vs. friendly just doesn't compute in my brain" really rings a bell. Additionally, I think in my younger life the only thing like flirting I could manage to do was to be friendly, vs. not interacting at all.

Conversely, I can see how some of the genuinely friendly behavior I exhibited could have been misconstrued as flirting, but I can't remember a clear case when it was. Maybe one or two possible cases. I think that may be something that women wind up dealing with more; I think the male flirting style is characterized as having less to do with friendliness.



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13 Apr 2013, 5:51 pm

This thread actually helps me a lot, although it makes me a bit upset at my psychologist who said I can't be on the spectrum because I can read expressions too well and pick up on emotions. Nevermind that I've spent a lot of time observing. I love observing emotions and I'm very good at analyzing. However, I still can't get intention. Flirting goes way over my head, never got it. Now I just don't trust anyone. I'm very wary and cautious around new people until I've observed them enough to feel a little more secure in knowing how they work. Some people can seem happy, but they're really mad. I've seen people be all happy and "you're my best friend!" and then turn around and talk the worst crap about their "best friend". I think that's one reason I hate dealing with "high society" and females in general. They're so fake with each other it takes too much effort to figure anything out about many of them.
Like a bully could be being abused at home and taking it out on others or they could just be a psychopath. The quiet one could be socially inept or plotting everyone's deaths... Thinking about each and every scenario is exhausting.


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13 Apr 2013, 6:25 pm

I was diagnosed as a child (college now) so I'm not sure how much things have changed since then, but I can both read and interpret nonverbal communication with some success. I wound up picking up on it over the years.



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13 Apr 2013, 7:02 pm

As of March 2012 I found out that I may have trouble reading nonverbal cues due to my neuropsychological profile and I am honestly confused as to what nonverbal cues I am missing. I mean I did not realize prior to March 2012 that I was having this issue. I have felt shy and socially awkward for my entire life pretty much so NVLD explains most of this I suppose. I have taken online tests regarding facial recognition and did fairly well.


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13 Apr 2013, 7:12 pm

I don't know what body language is.



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13 Apr 2013, 10:00 pm

I could read some body language like gestures or obvious expressions. This is why in movies and TV (especially the cartoons), I can read people better than in real life. I think TV and movies helped me learn what most people`s expressions would be like fear, anger, sadness, and happiness. In real life, I can tell if the person is sad based off what I seen before like if they are crying or if they are angry by that they are shouting or they sounded pissed. Other times, my mind doesn`t pick up the expression well or at all, making me very confused.