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17 Dec 2012, 12:58 am

Dan_Undiagnosed wrote:

When I saw this thread was related to the Conn shooting I thought it was implying the victims were at a special needs school for autistic kids, not that the shooter had an ASD. This is because I was intentionally avoiding the story. Anyway, to answer the question I don't think you've thought about how important WP is. In a sense we are already a part of something really vital and effective. What would you do with these feelings and thoughts following the shooting if you didn't have WrongPlanet to use? I think the best thing we can do is throw our support behind already popular and effective avenues of advocacy like WrongPlanet that are run by us and for us.

Excuse me, but I think you've either missed the entire point of this thread, or you're replying to a completely different thread.

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17 Dec 2012, 1:49 am

i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me.. and at this early stage of germination such a stance is quite dis-empowering.

i had a similar idea for a company that only employs or primarily employs Asperger and similar.

this IS a good idea regardless.. as long as it is done in a modern and effective way

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17 Dec 2012, 1:51 am

Fnord wrote:

Dan_Undiagnosed wrote:

Excuse me, but I think you've either missed the entire point of this thread, or you're replying to a completely different thread.

:lol:

It began with...

Mike1 wrote:

Since the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the AS community is more threatened than ever.

It seemed to me like Mike1 was advocating some sort of proactive autism rights or interest group following the media's reporting of the recent shooter's ASD diagnosis. I think we already have a pretty good advocacy network in WP. I don't see how my post was off topic.

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17 Dec 2012, 7:12 am

Fnord wrote:

Do we really need another 'Autism Speaks'?

This. But don't get me wrong: I have no opinion on whether "Autism Speaks" is good or bad.
As far as doing good deeds is concerned, I have enough trouble doing the things I'm supposed to be doing as it is. Would trying to make an international unionised body look good by public deeds be easier than, for instance, learning to overcome personal issues or trying to fake NT in one's own life?
Surely the rest of the world just needs to be educated regarding ASDs.. and isn't that the point of bodies like Autism Speaks?

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17 Dec 2012, 11:30 am

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i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me..

I like pessimists. They’re always the ones who bring life jackets for the boat. :wink:

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17 Dec 2012, 12:20 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Projectile wrote:

i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me..

I like pessimists. They’re always the ones who bring life jackets for the boat. :wink:

... and the first-aid kits, and the emergency locator beacons, and the emergency food rations, and the extra tank of gas, and the secret stash of cash, and the extra blankets, and the 12-pack of toilet paper, and the disinfectant, and ...

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17 Dec 2012, 12:31 pm

Yes.

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17 Dec 2012, 12:45 pm

No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fvP ... ature=fvwp

IMO, even the mere existence of one would be harmful to those of us who don't want one.

Visions of mass agendas and "one mind one thought" come to mind. Bad idea. Very bad idea.

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17 Dec 2012, 12:53 pm

No, I am not interested in being part of such a union.

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17 Dec 2012, 12:57 pm

Such movements give rise and voice to ideas like this.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt218357.html

To which my response is:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5097288.html#5097288

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17 Dec 2012, 1:23 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Projectile wrote:

i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me..

I like pessimists. They’re always the ones who bring life jackets for the boat. :wink:

I`d agree, but that dude goes beyond that. He throws his weight around to either get attention or to belittle people for his own self esteem. Likely both.

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17 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

MrXxx wrote:

Such movements give rise and voice to ideas like this.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt218357.html

To which my response is:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5097288.html#5097288

your side tracking the issue, obviously there is needs for different types of movements for difference groups.

However the need for networking amongst the community is crucial.

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17 Dec 2012, 1:54 pm

Stoek wrote:

MrXxx wrote:

Such movements give rise and voice to ideas like this.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt218357.html

To which my response is:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5097288.html#5097288

your side tracking the issue, obviously there is needs for different types of movements for difference groups.

However the need for networking amongst the community is crucial.

I'm expressing my opinion. Call it what you will, it doesn't change what it really is.

That said, a union is no good. What is best are grass roots local efforts where everybody knows each other, and can meet face to face. When you're dealing with a condition the nature of which is strong individuality, and is so wide a spectrum of individuals with such varied views and that fact alone just happens to be one of the key complaints about how people view us, I honestly believe a mass movement of ANY kind won't work well.

Just reading the OP's post, the whole thing smacks of an "Us against the world" mentality that in my opinion will do nothing to help us at all, but will further foster ideas that we don't fit in, don't have a place in normal society, and need to organize in order to "protect ourselves."

From what? Mass hysteria? Let me know when the jack boots are stomping down the street to come after us. I don't see that happening, and using the tragedy in Connecticut as fodder for fear is just counter productive fear mongering.

The way things have played out over the last few days, I'm far more concerned about mass hysteria among our own then that of society.

This kind of stuff just feeds it. Thanks but no thanks. I don't want anyone speaking for me, but ME.

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17 Dec 2012, 2:31 pm

Stoek wrote:

Cornflake wrote:

Projectile wrote:

i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me..

I like pessimists. They’re always the ones who bring life jackets for the boat. :wink:

I`d agree, but that dude goes beyond that. He throws his weight around to either get attention or to belittle people for his own self esteem. Likely both.

I do no such thing. You are assuming too much...

... and now that you have gained MY attention, what do you intend to do with it?

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17 Dec 2012, 3:35 pm

Stoek wrote:

Cornflake wrote:

Projectile wrote:

i willl join is fnord is banned for life.. his pessimism and cynicism irritate me..

I like pessimists. They’re always the ones who bring life jackets for the boat. :wink:

I`d agree, but that dude goes beyond that. He throws his weight around to either get attention or to belittle people for his own self esteem. Likely both.

Ah right - so it's just a personal dislike, then. For a moment I thought it might have been something serious. :wink:

You know, learning to accept that there will always be things in life that we dislike is one of those character-building things.

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28 Dec 2012, 6:18 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Ah right - so it's just a personal dislike, then. For a moment I thought it might have been something serious. :wink:

You know, learning to accept that there will always be things in life that we dislike is one of those character-building things.

Apathy towards things we dislike won't make the world a better place though. I don't really know where I was going with that, so I'll leave it as is.

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