Ever been wronged and found no one was on your side?

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Rascal77s
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22 Dec 2012, 6:27 am

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Yeah, ever since a church elder on the selection committee interviewed me and then started a rumor that I was mentally ill, I really have not had many real friends in church at all.

Stupid Christians.


Those are douche bags, not Christians.



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22 Dec 2012, 10:41 am

Quote Ghandi:
"I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike Christ."


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22 Dec 2012, 11:09 am

Loborojo wrote:
Quote Ghandi:
"I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike Christ."


That's not to say however, that Christians don't aspire to be like Christ, and it says nothing about either side of the coin as far as extremes go.
It's the extremists that give the rest of Christianity a bad name.


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22 Dec 2012, 11:16 am

Loborojo wrote:
Quote Ghandi:
"I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike Christ."


Never understood that. In my experience, those who make the biggest deal of the fact that they Are A Christian are those who are the most hate-filled, non-accepting of differences, bigoted individuals you will meet. Which as I remember it from my Sunday School days, is the opposite of how Jesus lived and taught others to live.

My history: Raised Anglican, baptised and confirmed, nowadays I go to Church on Christmas and Easter. Not sure how I feel about organised religion. Sceptical about the Bible as it was written by upper-class men then translated X number of times and something always gets added or lost in every translation. A lot of the books are letters from people, not the word of God, and many parts of the Bible contradict themselves. Despite this, when I read about what Jesus did and taught and believed in, I think he is a good role model to live by.



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22 Dec 2012, 12:38 pm

I don't know if this counts but my shrink I saw in high school always made it all out to be my fault for how kids were treating me. He could have been right and it was my autism that would frustrate them because I wasn't following the social rules. Or he could have just been ASSuming because of the apsie label. He wasn't there when these things would happen so how would he even know? The kids in my high school could have just not been very nice people so they treated me the way they did. I wonder if his response would have been any different if he didn't know I had it?

When I was in 5th grade, my old best friend decided to start telling lies about me on the bus whenever I wouldn't be on it because I would be at my appointment I had every Monday morning. She would also tell stories about us being in second grade and how I would scratch her leaving out the parts that she provoked me and she was teasing me and so were the other kids so I would scratch them. The little kids believed her and were against me. But they eventually apologized when they realized she lied. I am not sure how they figured it out.

My school principal thought in 6th grade that I had to toughen up and deal with the teasing ans bullying despite the fact she had the respect rule in her school. :roll: She also didn't care if they took advantage of me or even egged me to do things and I always had to be in trouble for it, not them. I was like a punching bag for the kids, their circus animal.


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23 Dec 2012, 7:05 am

Constantly. As a kid by teachers and other students. My parents wouldn't punish my brothers when they did bad things (stole my personal diary and read it, making fun of me). I got left behind from the family holiday because I got really upset that my parents did nothing about it.


At work - I have to fight for everything - pay rises, equality etc. I have to fight to be noticed, I'm overlooked and left out all the time.


I harbour so much anger about various incidents its not funny.

Had chest pains last night because I wasn't given an Xmas bonus (got one for the last 5 years) and other staff were asking if I got my bonus this year. If I don't do my job properly then the company loses $100k per day. It's not like I'm not in an important role.



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23 Dec 2012, 8:55 am

League_Girl wrote:
I don't know if this counts but my shrink I saw in high school always made it all out to be my fault for how kids were treating me.


my psychiatrist in 7th grade said to me "they are not laughing WITH you, they are laughing AT you".
what a platitude. i did not care why they were laughing. i did not register their laughter as important.
i sought no appraisal, and any appraisals i received were like junk mail to me.



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23 Dec 2012, 2:05 pm

All the time growing up. :ncool:

I've since moved on, but the memories still hurt. :(


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23 Dec 2012, 10:46 pm

Thank you everyone for the replies. I don't feel so alone.... but it is awful that some of you had these terrible experiences with bullies, as well.

In my life, there has always been at least one bully who made my life hell then i'd get ostracized. I could never triumph over the bully or have them change their ways and be able to coexist peacefully in the same environment. I always got driven out. In these instances, I would lose everything. Nobody remained on my side to make the situation tolerable;

It always existed of three camps
A) People on bully's side
B) Disengaged neutrals
C) Initially supportive people who withdrew their support because my problems with the bully became too large and time-consuming----- it was just easier for the people to leave me to my own devices after a while.

Bullies can also make you crazy...... Imagine, they pull all kinds of crap tormenting others. The tormented need to reach out for help. That help can be overburdened quickly, because bullies are relentless and sneaky.



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25 Dec 2012, 3:43 pm

Loborojo
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You are saying Aspies never bully someone?

Of course they do sometimes. They just don't generally do so in packs.



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25 Dec 2012, 4:09 pm

YES; people think I am a menace to society, when I am not.


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27 Dec 2012, 3:38 am

I have slowly become a fatalist with the knowledge that in 100 years not very many people alive today will be remembered or cared about. The majority are only known by the way they voted or what resources they consumed or what kinds of technology they had available or invented.

People on the whole are just passive consumers, takers, wasters – very few are creators, givers, renewers. Even the few will eventually be forgotten/erased from history just by the nature of the way humans love to rewrite history from different perspectives. After so much time goes by, no one really can know the truth from the doctored truth. That game ‘telephone’ some played as kids is a good example. The original message gets more garbled and changed as you increase the chain of people the message passes through to get to the end.

My social difficulties will not be remedied in my lifetime. I had to accept that even if there are success stories. I do not live in a progressive place (almost seems they are moving backward) and I can not move anywhere else. I have exhausted all avenues of so-called ‘help’ and fatigued my own motivation to even try anymore. To ride out the storm of life I found a good hiding place, arming myself with things that will help me survive, make lists of goals I can accomplish on my own everyday, and include at least one challenging thing a week. I like long projects that stretch my mind, and enjoy the transitional moments when something that was hard becomes progressively easier. Most importantly, I limit contact with others as much as I can.

I am not a doomsday prepper – everyday of my life has been prep enough. I am in survival mode. In survival, it is important to exercise and build on your strengths, be aware of your weaknesses, seek ways to avoid placing yourself in situations that require traits you do not have, … find your niche, build it up and protect it. Be the best at whatever your talent is, which will dampen the NT’s instinct to try and eliminate you from their sight – especially if you are useful. Put a price on your talents. If you do not value your talent, no one else will. People of all flavors want a good deal – something for nothing. Do not allow your strengths to be devalued. Turn their own weapons against them. If I can not get them to value me, then I will make them either afraid of me or make them unable to find me (I do prefer the latter).

Just remember, your trials through your life do not matter much in the community you live in because everyone has their own perceived trials they are dealing with – (excluding those who may have people that love them – I am not talking to you). NT’s are blind to the difficulties AS brings. You would not get mad at a blind person for walking into you would you? This is how I must see NT’s. They are unfortunate blind folks who just can not see where their feet are treading, and there has not been a tool (like a cane) invented yet for them to navigate on my territory. I used to want to set out landmines for them to trip over, but now I just try to keep them out -- safer for them and me.