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25 Dec 2012, 9:27 pm

Just pop in to say there are many types of IQ tests and they only represent your abilities well if you're a well rounded person, and and done in your first language preferably. I've done those they ask me a question and I answer kind of IQ test, I generally score 30 points less than those I look at the questions and write down the answers ones. That's because I have auditory processing problems and have trouble understanding, processing info and articulate my thoughts. I think a lot of autistics are very visual and not great with verbal communications, so that form of tests would not be accurate. My two sons (both with PDD-NOS) took the standard tests. DS1 who's quite talkative scored 40 points higher than nearly non-verbal DS2. OK I know DS1 probably IS smarter, but our other son isn't far behind. They play games together, including competitive ones and creative ones, they're well matched. DS2's teachers and therapists all say he's quite bright. I think his true IQ is at least 20 points higher than the standard tests showed.

Of course my personal experience doesn't represent other people's. Just saying if it's common for non-verbal (or people with APD) to score 20 - 30 point lower in standard IQ tests. Then those with 60 or 70 points might not be ret*d at all. They just have trouble showing their true intelligence.


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26 Dec 2012, 6:34 am

Verdandi wrote:
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There's no such thing as half aspie. In general aspergers is a pretty mild condition and most people with aspergers are capable of doing many things such as driving, cooking, or marrying. Some people have it more mild than others.


Asperger's Syndrome is often characterized as a "mild form of autism," but this does not mean that it is a mild disorder. One still has to be impaired by it to be diagnosed.

This is the kind of post that makes me question why I was diagnosed with AS, since I can't drive, I have very limited proficiency with cooking, and I am both unable to maintain a relationship and not seriously interested in having one, which makes marriage unlikely.

What I have is not mild by any means. It is not severe autism, as I can still be categorized as "high functioning," but it is not a mild condition.
idk, maybe you have more than just as? I would say i have mild aspergers because noone i meet would know i have it, and at most they would just think im a little off, but usually people think im NT. I am a bad driver myself, but i still do it and havent killed myself yet. I suck at understanding things(but graduated college witha 3.7), i can't hold a job at all bc i suck at simple tasks...i got fired from my last job for asking how to peel a banana lol...and icant live independently..or atleast refuse to for now lol.

I still would classify this as a mild disorder though..there are much worse disorders...and i also have adhd and generalized anxiety so who knows what is causing my problems. My iq was tested above average verbally(120ish) but slightly below avg performance wise(80-90).

An interesting thing about me is that although I got good grades in school, I am unable to do anything useful in the real world. I was very good at taking tests, and would get the highest scores on my tests with less studying than most of the other classmates. In my chemistry 101 class, I had the highest lecture average(besides not really understanding it) BUTTTTTTTTTTTT I could NOTTTT do the LABS. I couldnt even take out the equipment because i had no idea what to do...i couldnt do anything practical. I had my partner do it all. This is like having a job.

oh and my hygiene is awful but im working on it.

hmm i guess it isnt that mild of a disorder lol


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26 Dec 2012, 6:41 am

IQ means very little. I am in the rare situation whereby mine is impossible to work out. My reading age (as expected; due to sight impairment) is of a 15 year old, (I'm 23) my logic, memory, etc. is normal.

I've had at least 2 people tell me this is impossible. I've had someone else (who is qualified) tell me that this is rare; but certainly not unheard of.



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26 Dec 2012, 7:30 am

Wandering_Stranger wrote:
IQ means very little. I am in the rare situation whereby mine is impossible to work out. My reading age (as expected; due to sight impairment) is of a 15 year old, (I'm 23) my logic, memory, etc. is normal.

I've had at least 2 people tell me this is impossible. I've had someone else (who is qualified) tell me that this is rare; but certainly not unheard of.
what exactly is a 15 year old reading age? Don't most 15 yr olds read close to their adult ages?


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26 Dec 2012, 8:09 am

I find this sad to read ...this site is for anyone that suffers from autisim....it should not matter if you are considered high function or low function..we are all here to give each other support..and to chat about all the things that we struggle with on a daily basis.

I think that we all suffer in so many different ways..but the aim of this site is to come together to talk about our issues and to help everyone that needs to find some comfort in knowing that there is people out there understand what we all go through.
I am sure there is many people struggle in so many different aspects of their life and share the same condition..Autisim
i hate all this talk of high function and IQ stuff...we are not all clever...just people trying to get by the best we can with a condition that can make our life difficult.....so everyone is welcome to join in....as for retardation..it's just a nasty word that means nothing to me...we all have a lot to offer life no matter how difficult the condition can be....and everyone should feel welcome here.



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26 Dec 2012, 11:09 am

wtfid2 wrote:
Wandering_Stranger wrote:
IQ means very little. I am in the rare situation whereby mine is impossible to work out. My reading age (as expected; due to sight impairment) is of a 15 year old, (I'm 23) my logic, memory, etc. is normal.

I've had at least 2 people tell me this is impossible. I've had someone else (who is qualified) tell me that this is rare; but certainly not unheard of.
what exactly is a 15 year old reading age? Don't most 15 yr olds read close to their adult ages?



He probably means that his reading level was that of a ninth grader.



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26 Dec 2012, 11:48 pm

The few people I have met on the spectrum have been higher functioning, but each one has seemed to have a unique combination of strengths and challenges. Labels can guide, but shouldn't stereotype.



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27 Dec 2012, 5:49 pm

autisticyoungadult wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
Wandering_Stranger wrote:
IQ means very little. I am in the rare situation whereby mine is impossible to work out. My reading age (as expected; due to sight impairment) is of a 15 year old, (I'm 23) my logic, memory, etc. is normal.

I've had at least 2 people tell me this is impossible. I've had someone else (who is qualified) tell me that this is rare; but certainly not unheard of.
what exactly is a 15 year old reading age? Don't most 15 yr olds read close to their adult ages?



He probably means that his reading level was that of a ninth grader.


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28 Dec 2012, 7:05 pm

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Of course... Speaking is the main part of this kind of test. A child who learns to speak will increase his IQ. My son was diagnosed 2 years ago when he was 3 and non verbal. IQ tests measure something, they don't know what exactly. IQ can change through the lifespan. For example, I think my IQ is high because I never stopped learning new things, and today I'm 37. A person that can't speak and has trouble understanding what others are saying, will score low.


Exactly. Nonverbal autistic people tend to score more typically on Raven's Progressive Matrices, which doesn't require reading, writing, or speaking. It strikes me as more a matter of expression than an accurate test of ability.


The Raven's Progressive Matrices was my best score tested in the WAISIII, I had only one mistake and they said it was rarely to score with only one mistake, but it is only one set of people testing, so I cannot say if it is true.
I failed in many other tests due to language, due to background noises destracting me (if they test for autism: please provide an environment for autistic people to be able to perform!) and due to having zero mathematical inside.
I rather communicate to animals than to people.


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28 Dec 2012, 8:09 pm

Verdandi wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
There's no such thing as half aspie. In general aspergers is a pretty mild condition and most people with aspergers are capable of doing many things such as driving, cooking, or marrying. Some people have it more mild than others.


Asperger's Syndrome is often characterized as a "mild form of autism," but this does not mean that it is a mild disorder. One still has to be impaired by it to be diagnosed.

This is the kind of post that makes me question why I was diagnosed with AS, since I can't drive, I have very limited proficiency with cooking, and I am both unable to maintain a relationship and not seriously interested in having one, which makes marriage unlikely.

What I have is not mild by any means. It is not severe autism, as I can still be categorized as "high functioning," but it is not a mild condition.


You are absolutely right. Without taking all kind of contextual factors into account, the state of the Asperger syndrome of one person may not be described by an intensity scale. As the diagnostic of Asperger syndrome does not take into account to much of basic skills etc. it is impossible to tell if a person with Asperger may have good basic skills or not in example.



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29 Dec 2012, 12:23 am

Just me personally I think lower functioning people tend to get harassed on here by a lack of understanding. While I'm not low functioning I'm not really high functioning either. I tend to isolate myself even more though.