Males:Were you ever threatened with rape/harassment charges?

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'No' does in fact not mean 'no', it entirely depends on the context. If you observe, especially during your early teens, how males approach females and how they react, you will very likely conclude that it is part of the normal courtship ritual to 'convince' the female, and that she says 'no' to quite a few things until she finally agrees. If you don't see that, in lack of social skills/comprehension for example, you will just simply see the facts, which are that 'no' doesn't always mean 'no', especially if approaching women.

If you still think 'no' means 'no', no matter what, or if you cannot think of other social examples (arguments, father vs. mother, mother vs. child, child vs. dog, etc.) then your opinion is simply biased and so limited there is no point in arguing. Probably some people here will still be so biased, they can't even read this text not to mention think for themselves.

Btw Rascal77s, I respect your effort, but I pretty much believe it will be left ignored by the overwhelming majority. If people were to approach the issue with an open mind in the first place, they wouldn't even have their opinions to present here.

Congratulations for expressing the highest amount of ignorance possible.

For once in my life, I am deeply offended and not coming back for a while.

No does in fact mean no and only yes means yes. Pushing a woman until she says yes is a fairly straightforward example of harassment. The fact that it happens as frequently as it does is indicative of how women's right to self-determination and control over their own bodies is largely dismissed as irrelevant in the face of men's demands of such women. It's part of the basis for sexism.

I've never understood this.

Some men seem to think pestering and nagging women is a legitimate way to land a date, but then they get mad if they are called "creepy," or are accused of stalking.

You can't have it both ways. Pestering and nagging women in search of sex is a creepy, stalker-ish thing to do,

'No' does in fact not mean 'no', it entirely depends on the context. If you observe, especially during your early teens, how males approach females and how they react, you will very likely conclude that it is part of the normal courtship ritual to 'convince' the female, and that she says 'no' to quite a few things until she finally agrees. If you don't see that, in lack of social skills/comprehension for example, you will just simply see the facts, which are that 'no' doesn't always mean 'no', especially if approaching women.

'No' does in fact not mean 'no', it entirely depends on the context. If you observe, especially during your early teens, how males approach females and how they react, you will very likely conclude that it is part of the normal courtship ritual to 'convince' the female, and that she says 'no' to quite a few things until she finally agrees.

I've only read the first and last posts of this thread, so excuse me if I say this out of context. I couldn't take the poll, because as a gay man with Asperger's I've been sexually assaulted twice. The second time I had to get a restraining order. I've never "pursued" anyone, because I've always stopped the moment I thought I might be rejected (which was always too soon).

I can't imagine being on the other side, in the aggressive, stalking mode ... I don't think that's an Asperger's thing. WE are more likely to be taken advantage of, not the other way around.

Hello.

There are many things that I want to say here. But I will try not to be too lengthy. I am a male myself.

Firstly, I agree with Rascal77s and see his points. I feel so sorry about his horrible experiences with nasty women. It's frustrating that some don't get his points.

I think people tend to love to think that "men are oppressors and women are victims" and some women do take advantage of that. People tend to assume many men are sexual predators. That's one of the reasons why men tend not to pursue a career that involve being around children, though this is in a little different context. If a man is around potential sexual crime victims, he has to be very careful even if he has no intention of doing anything sexual.

I have never been threaten with any sexual harrassment accusation, but I do have some unpleasant experiences. For example, when I simply tried to help (not anything involving physical contact) a classmate who happened to be a woman, she went around and said to other people that I was making unwelcome sexual advances. I was shocked to hear it because such an idea never even crossed my mind. I didn't even see her as a woman. Just a person who needed help. I am always very careful about personal space and never go too close to people. I realized that she was seeing me as a desperate man and was interpreting me unkindly (and she wanted to be seen as a sexually desirable woman). Though it's sad, I tend to hesitate to help women nowadays because I tend to be easily misinterpreted. I also know other men's examples.

I realize when a man is not liked, a woman could easily interpret him unkindly. Having AS makes one a not very popular person, and makes him/her behave in a way that can easily be misinterpreted. So, I think it is a reasonable assumption to think that being on the spectrum makes a man more prone to false accusations. And I think that's what happened to me on those occasions.

It's way too long now. So I stop here.

Please point to where anyone said that men are pigs. I certainly did not say it. I did not even try to imply it. I said that some men profit from the assumption that most such accusations are false by capitalizing on that assumption to dismiss valid accusations brought against them.

And yes, often, making someone uncomfortable and refusing to stop when one is informed that one is making someone uncomfortable is harassment.



I have never heard of anyone's life being destroyed by a false accusation of rape or sexual harassment. I have heard of men who were legitimately convicted of rape and sent to prison for it claim they were falsely accused and imprisoned, but anyone who understands how rape cases are treated by police and in the courts would see that such a claim that imprisonment stems from false accusation is highly unlikely.



This is BS.



I believe I have read far more on the topic than many. What I have seen is that false accusations rarely go to court, and even more rarely result in any kind of convinction. In fact, a significant number of true accusations get dropped for various reasons, many of them questionable. Those that do go to court tend to become a commentary on the woman's virtue and worthiness, implying that if she has "questionable morals" that in some way she either deserved such treatment or brought it upon herself.

Most of what I have seen about false accusations is "men's rights activists" propaganda about the topic and not in any way reflective of real world situations.