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Rudywalsh
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17 Jan 2013, 3:00 pm

I agree, it's just another young man blowing his own trumpet.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:04 pm

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I agree, it's just another young man blowing his own trumpet.

I've done it myself enough times and I'm female

I've boasted about sexual conquests - it's an immature thing you do more when you're younger but people with Aspergers are basically behind in social development so probably more rather than less likely to do it as we want to impress our peers but don't go about it the right way.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:09 pm

I agree with nessa that is.

That's strange, what are you projecting so that you look hot from a distance but not so hot close up?

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17 Jan 2013, 3:12 pm

The response time on this thread is going at a million miles an hour, I can't keep up. LOL.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:12 pm

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No, I can't say I'm like you at all, OP -- and I can't say I want to be, either. I don't do those things because they don't bring me any sense of fulfillment, or even any stimulation of the base desires.

You seem to treat women as trophies rather than love interests or even people. You only describe them in terms of how "hot" they are, or how quickly you can bed them, but never mention how they made you feel or what attracted you to them other than looks.

You measure your social success as how hard you can make people laugh, and your "social group" consists of other predatory and shallow men.

And you say all of this with a naive sense of confidence and pride, as if you are setting some great example for those around you. I honestly feel more pity and disgust than envy or admiration. I'll grant that it's "interesting" what you've managed to accomplish, but I really think you should see a professional if you aren't already. This all sounds very unhealthy and destructive.

Well apart from the stuff about learning how to do it all, it sounds like a typical young man talking - many are like this as far as their attitude to women is concerned.

I think you underestimate the typical young man. A lot are misguided, but most aren't quite so... psychopathic. But then, maybe I have too much faith in people.

Nope I've had a gutful of male attitudes to women throughout my life and take it from me most of the younger ones are constantly on the lookout for 'hot women'. I know this because I have the misfortune to appear 'hot' from a distance but not close up so I am endlessly scrutinised and dismissed when they realise they've made a 'mistake'.

So do not tell me a LOT of men aren't like this when I know it from my own experience!

Selection bias. Your primary interaction is with the men who are loud-mouthed and rude enough to approach and dismiss you so readily. What of the young men who never approach you, or whom you never approach? There are a lot of people out there like that, but I wouldn't say they're the majority -- they're just the most noticeable. OP himself even says he a lot more brash and forward than most NTs he knows.

My intent here is not to trivialize your personal experience but rather to put it into context; sorry if it comes off as cold or insensitive. At any rate, in lieu of any hard data on the subject, neither of our statements is nothing more than conjecture anyway. I just think it makes more sense to assume that psychopathic behavior is in the minority, otherwise it shouldn't be considered a psychological disorder in the first place but rather a demonstration of typical human behavior.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:19 pm

Rudywalsh wrote:

I agree with nessa that is.

That's strange, what are you projecting so that you look hot from a distance but not so hot close up?

Lol God knows!

I think it's the fact I have a long face and just an aspie look ie my face shape and look isn't standard and they are
expecting it to be

I have nice eyes, skin and hair but my actual facial bone structure isn't right - I have some kind of malocclusion of the bite whereby my top and bottom teeth don't meet, so my face is imperfect - it looks too long and gives me an androgynous look

I've had people questioning my gender to each other and saying I look like a man too - all the usual delightful stuff you suffer when an ignorant person thinks you aren't sufficiently stereotypic of your gender

It's caused me endless misery as of course people look more if your face isn't totally standard issue

So I will overhear men say things to each other like "What about her?" "No, face isn't right" - and that's positively polite compared to how some people have reacted

On the beach on holiday once I heard one of two young lads as they walked past me and my partner say, 'There's the one we thought was hot but wasn't'

This kind of stuff tends to stick in your brain - Forever!

We all have our cross to bear though... :roll:

Needless to say though, if I hear a man refer to a woman as 'hot' or a 'hottie', I just switch off!

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17 Jan 2013, 3:35 pm

scarp wrote:

nessa238 wrote:

scarp wrote:

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Well apart from the stuff about learning how to do it all, it sounds like a typical young man talking - many are like this as far as their attitude to women is concerned.

I think you underestimate the typical young man. A lot are misguided, but most aren't quite so... psychopathic. But then, maybe I have too much faith in people.

No, my primary interaction these days is with no one if I can help it lol

These people say what they say in passing to each other, not directly to me but I have seen some actually divert from their normal path to take a closer look at me.

It's like you're some product that a person thinks they want to buy but after a close look they change their mind

It is ego destroying even though I don't like this kind of person anyway - it's the way they seem to be blaming ME for not being what they initially thought I was! Plus their friends usually laugh at them for having made such a poor selection!

Go through a lifetime of that and see if you've got anger issues!

And as for me approaching the non-loud men - do you reckon the above experiences are going to leave me with the confidence to do that?! Lol

At least I can laugh about all this now - in the past I've wanted to die because of it

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17 Jan 2013, 3:36 pm

I read more often than not on wrong planet about those that have no luck what so ever in attracting the opposite sex. We seem to be entertained by somebody who doesn’t have such problems. The way Tarzan expresses his exploits seems to be the problem.

I had many girlfriends growing up, and yes I blew my trumpet as loud as the best of them, I know I was wrong now.

Back then I didn’t know my elbow from my arse, it takes time before you can see yourself, sometime’s others see who you are first.
As with everybody when they are young, it takes time to mature, some of us longer than others.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:41 pm

Nessa you sound like a really cool person, good for you.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:43 pm

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Nessa you sound like a really cool person, good for you.

Thanks

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17 Jan 2013, 3:43 pm

I'm finding it suprising that this topic gets 39(?) posts so fast.

OP is a 21-year old "red-piller", as described in another one of his 7 posts. That's where his view of the world comes from, I doubt he's going to change it, and I don't believe he's a troll.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:43 pm

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No, I know what you mean because I experience it myself. Please don't assume that I don't. The difference between you and me is in how we extrapolate our personal experiences to the world and the people around us. I am merely suggesting that the silent majority of people probably aren't psychopathic jerks. I don't think that's an unreasonable deduction.

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17 Jan 2013, 3:45 pm

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I'm finding it suprising that this topic gets 39(?) posts so fast.

OP is a 20(?)-year old "red-piller", as described in another one of his 7 posts. That's where his view of the world comes from, I doubt he's going to change it, and I don't believe he's a troll.

What's a 'red-piller'?

Has he done threads elsewhere?

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17 Jan 2013, 3:47 pm

scarp wrote:

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I wouldn't describe the behaviour we are discussing as psychopathic though

I'd term it 'standard male behaviour'

Obviously not ALL males but a fair proportion

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17 Jan 2013, 3:58 pm

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I wouldn't describe the behaviour we are discussing as psychopathic though

I'd term it 'standard male behaviour'

Obviously not ALL males but a fair proportion

"Standard male behavior" is being forward enough to go out and make out with women you barely know? Having multiple concurrent sex partners with zero emotional attachments or desires for one? Having friends who only share your predatory desires?

I admit that I may be out of the loop but I don't think I'm that out of the loop... could just be my aspie naivete, but that seems a bit extreme.

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17 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

scarp wrote:

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I wouldn't describe the behaviour we are discussing as psychopathic though

I'd term it 'standard male behaviour'

Obviously not ALL males but a fair proportion

What do a lot (don't know what percentage but I'd always assumed the majority) of mainly younger men and women
do on a Friday night and at weekends?

They go out drinking, dancing and looking to score

It's called the mating game

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