Aspies leaving WP due to percieved "tone"

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Are you aware of individuals on the spectrum that have a) decided not to join WP, or b) left WP, due to a percieved "tone"?
Poll ended at 07 Feb 2013, 5:16 pm
Yes, I don't know why (individuals) left/did'nt join 5%  5%  [ 6 ]
No, I'm not aware of anyone who left/did'nt join 54%  54%  [ 61 ]
Yes, they indicated they did'nt like "negativity" 21%  21%  [ 23 ]
Yes, they indicated that the site was too positive towards ASDs 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Yes, they thought the site is too pro-cure 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Yes, they thought the site did'nt take their interests into account 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Yes, they felt awkward posting when they have had better life experences 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Other/please explain in a post 13%  13%  [ 15 ]
Total votes : 112

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23 Jan 2013, 7:54 pm

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Could the two posters above please take the dispute to another thread? I'd like to keep the thread limited to people's explanations and the poll.

Oh, but I'm finding this very entertaining.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:11 pm

I have heard of autistic people feeling that the forum does not really meet their needs, as the overall culture seems focused toward a particular set of high functioning individuals and experiences like theirs seems less common.

I feel like I am halfway there much of the time, but I don't really have anywhere else to talk about this stuff in depth.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:14 pm

Verdandi wrote:
I have heard of autistic people feeling that the forum does not really meet their needs, as the overall culture seems focused toward a particular set of high functioning individuals and experiences like theirs seems less common.

I feel like I am halfway there much of the time, but I don't really have anywhere else to talk about this stuff in depth.


I often feel there is a higher-functioning tone on the forums and it means I get ignored; seen as too unsophisticated or childish by others but I am as I am. How am I meant to be all 'adult and sophisticated' if I've had no peer group??



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23 Jan 2013, 8:18 pm

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Perceiving this kind of tone is not one of the strengths of my brain. I think WP is fine. I don't perceive much negative.


Ditto. I honestly haven't noticed it. I am a very sensitive person as well, and I am an intelligent person. So although Aspies are meant to have trouble picking up things in person socially, I didn't know it meant in the written word as well, which it apparently must do... 8O


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23 Jan 2013, 8:20 pm

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I've left a few times primarily because of one ultra negative person but I find myself strangely drawn back. I just try to avoid the negative ones, and they pop up from time to time, as often as possible. These are the ones that if you say black, they'll say white. If you say hot, they'll say cold. Why? I guess it's because they're bored and miserable.


Yep I know the type well :)


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23 Jan 2013, 8:21 pm

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I often feel there is a higher-functioning tone on the forums and it means I get ignored; seen as too unsophisticated or childish by others but I am as I am. How am I meant to be all 'adult and sophisticated' if I've had no peer group??


That is a good question.

I had more issues with what I described a bit over a year ago, when there appeared to be more discussion about how having an AS diagnosis means being capable of getting a degree, holding a full time job, and all sorts of other things I find too difficult, complicated, and messy to sustain without burnout. It was a bit discouraging.

Right now I seem to notice more the complaints about the DSM-5. I personally accept the change because I find that people tend to have higher expectations than I can meet because they assume that "Asperger's Syndrome" means mild.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:26 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I often feel there is a higher-functioning tone on the forums and it means I get ignored; seen as too unsophisticated or childish by others but I am as I am. How am I meant to be all 'adult and sophisticated' if I've had no peer group??


That is a good question.

I had more issues with what I described a bit over a year ago, when there appeared to be more discussion about how having an AS diagnosis means being capable of getting a degree, holding a full time job, and all sorts of other things I find too difficult, complicated, and messy to sustain without burnout. It was a bit discouraging.

Right now I seem to notice more the complaints about the DSM-5. I personally accept the change because I find that people tend to have higher expectations than I can meet because they assume that "Asperger's Syndrome" means mild.


I seemed to be better able to cope in an NT environment before my Asperger's Diagnosis at age 34

Post-diagnosis I have far less stress in my life but can't hold down a job as I seem unable/unwilling to tolerate peoples' bullying attitudes any longer, so financially it hasn't helped me at all
but it has helped with learning about myself and meeting others like me so I feel overall it's probably for the best



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23 Jan 2013, 8:29 pm

nessa238 wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I have heard of autistic people feeling that the forum does not really meet their needs, as the overall culture seems focused toward a particular set of high functioning individuals and experiences like theirs seems less common.

I feel like I am halfway there much of the time, but I don't really have anywhere else to talk about this stuff in depth.


I often feel there is a higher-functioning tone on the forums and it means I get ignored; seen as too unsophisticated or childish by others but I am as I am. How am I meant to be all 'adult and sophisticated' if I've had no peer group??


I can't tell high functioning from low functioning :/ How can you tell the difference?


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23 Jan 2013, 8:32 pm

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nessa238 wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I have heard of autistic people feeling that the forum does not really meet their needs, as the overall culture seems focused toward a particular set of high functioning individuals and experiences like theirs seems less common.

I feel like I am halfway there much of the time, but I don't really have anywhere else to talk about this stuff in depth.


I often feel there is a higher-functioning tone on the forums and it means I get ignored; seen as too unsophisticated or childish by others but I am as I am. How am I meant to be all 'adult and sophisticated' if I've had no peer group??


I can't tell high functioning from low functioning :/ How can you tell the difference?


I get an uncomfortable feeling that the people talking around me consider me not on their 'level' hence they talk over and around me ie leave me out, plus I can see that they talk in a manner that is more similar to each other than to myself ie I am the odd one out

I just get this sense that I get with NTs but in a milder form, a sense they are 'getting' something I'm not and they all know it between themselves. It's like always being the younger child wanting to play with the older children but they don't want you in their game :(



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23 Jan 2013, 8:34 pm

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There's a lot of negativity here whcih is the main reason I think most aspies would like to stay away.


This is true. It is kind of negative on here which is why I'm kind of glad to be away from it at times.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:36 pm

nessa238 wrote:
I get an uncomfortable feeling that the people talking around me consider me not on their 'level' hence they talk over and around me ie leave me out, plus I can see that they talk in a manner that is more similar to each other than to myself ie I am the odd one out

I just get this sense that I get with NTs but in a milder form, a sense they are 'getting' something I'm not and they all know it between themselves


Ah, that makes sense. I just figured people were being arrogant and ignore it (or try to). That's their problem if they don't like me. Online, everyone seems the same level to me just with different problems.


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23 Jan 2013, 8:36 pm

I am quite the optimist, I love the see the best side of people and treat everyone equally, I actually treat people who are thought of as not equal better then I would treat someone who was equal. I trust the government and the system I live under to do a good job, I trust the forum and the people, I have no angst as I know it is best to just let things flow as they are. I get frustrated with people who think the world is against them or that everything is a conspiracy. I hate conflict and try to avoid it as I don't see the point in long draw out arguments. At the same time I have difficulties understanding other views because of autism. I am working on that.

If someone is un-popular at work I immediately befriend them, I try to make the playing field level. I love going for the underdog. We are all innocent all have the same primal fears and there is always a reason for someone's behaviour. Everything can be explained and understood eventually it just takes patience.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:43 pm

Essentially you sound that compassion is dominant in you. +1000

That post was very nice.



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23 Jan 2013, 8:44 pm

Too much bitching/moaning/complaining.

but i enjoy some people on here who are pretty helpful.


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23 Jan 2013, 8:45 pm

There are some self-pitying types, but usually I just ignore them. Some people don't realize that staring at a computer screen all day is not going to fix your life.


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23 Jan 2013, 8:56 pm

The reasons why I rarely post are:

* The often negative tone here

* The imbalance of power (pro-cure vs. anti-cure)

* Pointless and repetitive threads

* The widespread discrimination against the self-diagnosed (FYI, I am diagnosed)

The main reason, however, is that much of what is posted here offends me a lot, you know, like being told that I'm a "disease" or "illness" which needs to be " cured", etc. If I try to defend myself against this, I am almost always flamed. I reckon I have many haters here.

I also can't stand the attitudes towards the repercussions of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings. For example, a member here was horribly discriminated against, and posted it here. The member was exceptionally calm about it, and didn't even post it in The Haven. Meanwhile, I was ready to explode. Some insensitive a**hole posted something like "get over it" to the OP. WTF?!

I have also been flamed for being angry about the discrimination we face. Yeah ... Sure ... Let's just accept it as part of daily life. :x :roll:

In a nutshell, WP has a negative effect on my emotions, and I'd probably be banned for defending myself against those who hate me. As such, I no longer feel motivated to post.


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