Whats with all the suicide threads?

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I'd like to see a Happy To Be Alive thread.

Yeah Suicide threads should best be in the Haven Ive had my share of thoughts of suicide from time to time but after coming across like 3 suicide threads in general autism discussion kinda makes me sad. I dont want to be sad or depressed its never fun.

if thats what its like then im sorry you have to sufffer through such an awful system, i think paying for medical care is wrong as well, the nhs is a good thing i think

Suicide is selfish, think of all the people you will hurt when you kill yourself.

Even if you don't think you will be hurting anyone.

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I'm going to see if we can get a "happy" forum, I think- I've been running a poll in another thread. Most folk seem open to the idea, and that would give folks somewhere to specifically go to if they want to share the happy things.



I agree. The Haven is the place for that stuff, I don't want to have it appear everywhere.... I sympathise that people are feeling really bad and that they need support, but a lot of folk want to avoid the really negative stuff. That's impossible to do if it's all over the place.

Hmm ometimes its not always about 'other people.' just as much as it's not always about 'ones self.' I highly doubt if someone posts something depressing they are trying to make anyone feel bad about themselves they are probably reaching out for help or venting because they have nowhere else to vent and need to get it out.

Posters do have the right to avoid depressing topics if they so choose.

Yeah yeah, and expecting someone to stick around no matter how much pain they are in just so you don't get sad about their death could be seen as quite selfish as well....what about the suicidal individual's pain that they are in....Not saying people should not try and help and just let them follow through but unless its to genuinely help that person not just keep em around a little longer it won't do any good.

Also a lot of times if one is suicidal they are feeling worthless, are already quite guilty feeling about like a burden to everyone and like everyone would be better off if your dead....so you end up rationalizing that the pain they feel from your death is better than continuing to burden them. Its not as though one is not aware they could hurt others by offing themself, that just adds to the guilt and worthless feelings.

I was thinking maybe if there was some sort of warning or something that The Haven is better for when you're feeling really down, and then maybe a better enforced "if you don't have something supportive to say and are only there to criticize what you think that individual must be doing wrong don't respond to threads." rule there. I mean I don't think we can very well ban people from talking about suicidal, but maybe that sort of thing would help cut down on people mistakingly posting their suicidal thoughts in say general discussion where some responses end up to be just plain cruel....which does prove it's not necessarily an NT trait.

I didn't mean it that way. I meant a happy Aspie going into the Haven (where suicide topics should belong), sees a suicide thread, and attacks the OP for being miserable, or starts another thread commenting about suicide topics. It makes Aspies that are unhappy feel bad about themselves and feel like they ''mustn't'' post depressing topics any more. I'm actually for depressing topics, got against.

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I see that does make a little more sense, I totally read it kinda wrong....I kind of thought it was unusual you'd post what I thought you did based on some past posts.

Ah, but sometimes the happy aspies want to help, so they will go into the Haven. If they do go in there though, they go on the understanding that the Haven is there to help and support, not be critical, and that there are lots of sad, despairing and pain filled posts.

Many happy aspies won't always have been happy. But if they have reached that state, beaten the demons and managed to build a good life, they may want to "pay it forward" if you will.

However, equally they won't want to have it pop up in front of them randomly all over the board. If you're in a good mood, and want to remain in that good mood (which I suppose could also be described as selfish) then seeing depressing subject lines all over the place won't help with that.

A place for all things, in my honest opinion.

I think this is disingenuous to mental health professionals as a whole. No, they are not in it just for the money. Sometimes, psychologists and psychiatrists are biased, and sometimes they are incompetent. That doesn't mean that they necessarily have ill intent, and that doesn't make them greedy. Also, just because medication didn't help you does not mean it's not helped others.


As I stated earlier, all the suicide threads in General Autism Discussion, excluding DeadEnd's recently removed thread, are not negative in any way. In fact, they are decidedly neutral. Just because they are about suicide does not mean that they automatically belong in Haven, which is supposed to be something of a refuge and venting space.

Well some are just in it more for the money than anything else, and I've certainly had my fair share of frustration with mental health professionals. I feel I have to be cautious when dealing with them, because I'm not so sure they really have my best interests in mind. Also even if medication does help some people, it would be better if they didn't push it so much. I mean when I say no to trying something that means no and then the psychiatrist might still keep insisting I try some drug...so yeah while I am sure there are good mental health professionals who do have the best of intentions not so sure if it even reflects the majority of them I don't know since I havn't met all mental health professionals.