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05 Mar 2013, 12:40 am

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I posted this as satire or whatever you call it. It's a spin off from the other thread called is cheating an aspie trait. I wasn't making fun of Joe90 when I posted this. I did it to be hilarious.

As literally my first read thread on this forum, I'm concerned at even expressing/participating in this environment if this is a typical response to concerns (at least in the OP's mind its a legit concern).



Then you have missed the point of this thread. Go read the link I linked to in one of my replies. Then you may get it.


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05 Mar 2013, 5:13 am

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Having at least one X chromosome in the 23rd pair is associated with Asperger's Syndrome, so if your 23rd chromosome pair is either "XX" or "XY" (or have Polysomy-23 with at least one "X" chromosome), then you may be one of the 0.03 to 4.84 per 1,000 individuals who show some symptoms of AS. Only an appropriately trained and licensed mental-health professional can render a valid diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome, however.
Fnord I think this is on the wrong thread, however it fascinates me. I didn't think they had categorically identified genes responsible for autism/AS?

It's a joke.

Everybody has at least one "X" chromosome in pair 23, but less than one-half of one percent of the people will show symptoms of AS (Some say that the percentage is as high as 33%, but I'm not buying it).

The point of this entire thread seems to poke fun at the ignorance behind the false connections being made between Asperger's Syndrome and just about every form of normal appearance or behavior known to humanity. I just thought that I'd make my own little contribution to the thread in the hope that someone would have a "D'oh!" moment, and come to realize that AS can not be diagnosed by virtue of just one observable trait (such as promiscuity), and that it can not be accurately diagnosed by anyone other than an appropriately trained and licensed mental-health professional - even then, getting a second (or third) opinion may be useful.


Oh. My humour radar has totally failed me again. :oops:

I agree that there are some ridiculous questions popping up now and again though. It's a great shame when they are the result of things professionals that are supposed to know better have said. If they can't get the facts right what hope is there for Joe Public.


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05 Mar 2013, 6:19 pm

whirlingmind, I think its suppost to be like the the "marrage is the leading couse of divorce" joke, only relating to aspergers. Stateing the plain obvious and making people over think, people like us.

I must admit this thread is really amusing and making my day.



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06 Mar 2013, 4:00 pm

Thanks rapidroy - you know it's pretty often people are having to explain jokes to me! I can get them if they are really obvious jokes, but deadpan, complicated or subtle ones fly past me every time!


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06 Mar 2013, 5:35 pm

I walk around on two legs, and breath oxegen.

Like chocolate.

And like being given cash.

Are these aspie traits?

Oh yes!

I also buy stuff in stores that happens to be made in China.

Are these earmarks of being an aspie?



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06 Mar 2013, 11:11 pm

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Thanks rapidroy - you know it's pretty often people are having to explain jokes to me! I can get them if they are really obvious jokes, but deadpan, complicated or subtle ones fly past me every time!


Same thing here, the other day a friend of my dad made a joke to him that somehow compaired black people to being dirty and working physical labour using heavy figuretive wording and puns, yes it was a rasist joke, anyway that friend tryed 3-4 times to explain it to me in fine detail until my dad finally said quit trying he will never get it. I dislike inapproprate jokes like that however I really dislike looking and feeling stupid aswell. This happen so often to me, although watching a TV program called Corner Gas as well is MASH helped me develop my humor radar a little, thats how I sort of got fnord's joke though I needed his 2nd post to get it. I watched Larry the cable guy's Git r done then loaned it to dad and his first comment was I bet you did not understand 1/2 the jokes in that DVD, they are used to me being like that.

At work there was a Dilbert comic book in the lunch room titled "Its not funny if you have to explain it" I never read the book however the title is so true.



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07 Mar 2013, 8:13 am

I was going to actually make a thread like this out of sarcasm, but I thought people might think I'm trolling and say ''I smell a troll..'', and trolling is not my nature. Not saying the OP is a troll but I was afraid others might accuse me of trolling.

I don't think this thread is a good idea though. It should have really been put in the random discussion, where things aren't always taken so seriously. There's a lot of people that use general Autism discussion as a way to communicate with other Aspies and share problems, etc, not to be getting confused with a joke. Some new members might get confused, especially if they are self-diagnosed.

OK, I will say one little joke. I have 5 fingers on my hands, is this to do with AS? :)


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07 Mar 2013, 9:19 am

I don't think so, however having 8 fingers and 2 thombs is a sure sign of AS, everybody knows that.



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07 Mar 2013, 4:20 pm

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I don't think so, however having 8 fingers and 2 thombs is a sure sign of AS, everybody knows that.


"I have eight fingers, and two thumbs. Is that an aspie trait?"

Thats actually pretty funny.

It works better than the original post of this thread IMO.

I too get irked with all of these ' i have a sweet tooth, is that an aspie trait?" threads.
So I also see the need to spoof them.

The way to do is to take a trait thats universal to the human race ( or if not universal as common as dirt in the human race)and is a nonsequitar to being an aspie, and suggest it is your own pecularly 'aspie trait'.

What the OP did was to take a trait thats (yes it is fairly common in the human race) but is the opposite of traits aspies are supposed to have. In effect saying "i am the opposite of an aspie. Does that make me an aspie?" The threads you see here equate nonsequitar common human traits to aspergers, but they dont equate specifically nt traits with aspergers ( they are dumb, but not THAT dumb).

So her post was confusing as to what the target of her attempt at humor was. Her attempt at satire misses the mark because her post doesnt really resemble the thing is spoofing. So it didnt work as satire. Because it didnt work as satire all of us readers were left baffled and got the impression that her assertion that "i like to socialize-is that an aspie trait" was out of ignorance. Or that she is a troll or something.

Though in all fairness- ive had to explain my attempts at humor here too.

When you read the Onion, or read Art Buchwald, you expect a put-on. But here you're not sure who the writer is nor where they are coming from ( is this person a clever person being clever, or are they an impaired person being impaired?).

On top of that- this is an autism spectrum site where many take things literally.

So in all fairness- Mark Twain mightve be mistaken for a troll here as well.

So - on one hand Im critesizing the op. But on the other hand i have to admit that putting people on on wp is tricky thing to try to do.



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07 Mar 2013, 5:57 pm

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I was going to actually make a thread like this out of sarcasm, but I thought people might think I'm trolling and say ''I smell a troll..'', and trolling is not my nature. Not saying the OP is a troll but I was afraid others might accuse me of trolling.

I don't think this thread is a good idea though. It should have really been put in the random discussion, where things aren't always taken so seriously. There's a lot of people that use general Autism discussion as a way to communicate with other Aspies and share problems, etc, not to be getting confused with a joke. Some new members might get confused, especially if they are self-diagnosed.

OK, I will say one little joke. I have 5 fingers on my hands, is this to do with AS? :)



I've been mistaken as a troll her numerous times unless that former mod was lying to me about it. I do recall being told by few other former members here I was called one and I was not aware of it because I didn't go back to that thread or because I didn't know they were talking about me when they would say how there are trolls here.

But my humor may have done it and I sometimes get mad when I see other members do humor here and other members take it well and find it funny and I am like whenever I had my humor, I was a "troll" and I would feel left out and rejected by my own kind. Even another former mod here told me my humor isn't her cup of tea and she was NT.

Okay joke time:


Oh I just remembered I was going to mail something today and did it. Is this an aspie thing?

While I was waiting at the post office, I was playing my game and then I noticed the man at the counter was waiting for me. Does this have anything to do with AS?


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07 Mar 2013, 6:17 pm

honestly when I read the title of the thread and saw who posted I kind of thought something was up since League Girl usually would not say something so silly is "is socializing an aspie trait?".



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07 Mar 2013, 6:32 pm

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honestly when I read the title of the thread and saw who posted I kind of thought something was up since League Girl usually would not say something so silly is "is socializing an aspie trait?".



It was something Joe90 said in the other thread and she wrote something sarcastic about someone will make a thread asking if socializing is an aspie trait and I decided to make one as a joke and I went back to that thread and quoted it saying "done."


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07 Mar 2013, 6:35 pm

People do the same thing with personality type, astrology, blood type, nationality, you name it. Guess it's some kind of search for answers/identity/belonging thing and aspies are not immune.

EDIT: That is, "I like lasagna. Is that a Pisces thing?" "I have curly hair, is it an INTP thing?"" etc.



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07 Mar 2013, 8:14 pm

Your guess is both as good as mine. but i think its all down to fair usage of speech in a scenario which is called for and also in the same necessary world in which we need share with others. if you want to be somebody then you ought to find that person within and stand up to injustice and be somebody. this isn't a stupid headline that someone put down its a matter of which path we choose to follow and yes, to be naive and sometimes selfish is an aspie trait. because we can be narrow-minded at times to bear any sense in an unspoken discussion.



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08 Mar 2013, 7:14 am

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But my humor may have done it and I sometimes get mad when I see other members do humor here and other members take it well and find it funny and I am like whenever I had my humor, I was a "troll" and I would feel left out and rejected by my own kind. Even another former mod here told me my humor isn't her cup of tea and she was NT.


I don't think you're a troll. But other people on the internet always get uppity about this so called ''troll'' word, and I was just afraid to be accused of one myself if I done a thread like this, although in my world it is not being a troll. I just worry too much of other people's opinions about me, just like I do when I am offline. I am a socially pessimistic person, just ignore me. :)

And I know what you mean about the ''other people's humour/opinions gets taken well but mine never does'' because I get that all the time. When I do threads like ''does my friend/cousin/co-worker have AS?'' and write down all the possible Aspie traits, I get replies like ''why are you trying to diagnose him/her?'' and I never get a proper answer to help me, but when other people create threads asking the same question (''does my friend/cousin/co-worker have AS''), nobody says what they say to me, and keep the thread going full of possible reasons how their friend has AS.

Confusing. I suppose double standards happen on here too....


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08 Mar 2013, 12:06 pm

Sadly we are not immune to discrimination and singling people out ad treating an individual differently than others. That's why the NT bashing is stupid and makes no sense.


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