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24 Apr 2013, 8:25 pm

unfortunately, we all view the world through the warped lens of our own experience and perception...

Simply put, from my standpoint, the avatar/indigo/soul stuff is BS.

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24 Apr 2013, 8:29 pm

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I think an applicable word is "unfalsifiable." It's not even wrong.

My favorite new word...it seems to apply to so much 'new age' thinking. Which must be why I don't even know where to start tearing the theory of 'light beings', 'walk ins', etc apart...there's nothing there to begin with. Which, of course, is my point, but it's so true...you can't prove a lack of nothing.

I think the whole indigo/crystal thing has changed in the 3 years since I first looked it up. And just being whimsical here, but I preferred being an indigo person over a crystal person. Indigo is so much prettier... :lol:

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24 Apr 2013, 8:31 pm

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but I preferred being an indigo person over a crystal person. Indigo is so much prettier... :lol:

I think indigo sounds nicer...trendier at least. Crystal makes me think of stodgy people who have homes that you can't make a mess in. Indigo sounds....artsier?

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24 Apr 2013, 8:38 pm

DonkeyBuster wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

I think an applicable word is "unfalsifiable." It's not even wrong.

Then you're going to love the Russell's teapot-analogy.

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24 Apr 2013, 8:40 pm

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The underlined text is a link describing a study that found that people with Asperger's are less likely to assign meaning, not that they do not assign meaning. I tried to make this distinction in my post, but I guess it was missed.

That was my fault, not yours. I very frequently miss the fact that something is a link unless it looks like a link (IOW, if there is no http or www in front of it, I don't realize it's a link).

Ah, that treacherous lack of attention to detail... :wink:

You can do a search for the article, it was quite interesting.

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Examples? I know I consider myself very spiritual, but I had to work at giving meaning to my life. I don't buy the 'god' rationale [oxymoron, isn't it?], so I don't see a prime mover behind events. I hold to the Buddhist cause & effect, a kind of personal law of thermodynamics...energy is neither created nor destroyed, but it can be transformed.

On the other hand, I have a friend that is more Aspie than I & she's all about the supernatural aspects of Buddhism, ghosts, 'it was meant to happen', magical amulets, etc. Makes me roll my eyes, but we're very good friends.

So I guess this proves your premise...it's a loose association it there is one.

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24 Apr 2013, 8:40 pm

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Verdandi wrote:

That was my fault, not yours. I very frequently miss the fact that something is a link unless it looks like a link (IOW, if there is no http or www in front of it, I don't realize it's a link).

It's partly my fault because I forgot to put (link) at the end, like I usually do.

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I think people assign meanings based on their view of life. So, if you believe in a spiritual aspect of life, I think you are more prone to assigning "purpose" kinds of meanings to things. If you don't, then you will assign other kinds of meanings. The link doesn't work, so I can't read the study to know how to explain my thoughts in relation to it. But I am always skeptical of research that says "aspies do this" or "auties do this" because I think there is a lot more diversity within the spectrum than the general public and most professionals and researchers recognize. I think a lot of research in the area of autism is subject to strong confirmation bias. But again, I could be wrong about the study you linked to. I could see where aspies who do not subscribe to a belief in spirituality would be less likely to ascribe meanings of "purpose" to life events than NTs who do hold a belief in spirituality. But I bet aspies who hold a belief in spirituality are more likely to ascribe "purpose" meanings to life events than NT's who do not hold a belief in spirituality. IOW, I do not think it is neurological type that influences this, but view of life.

I am largely skeptical of such research, but it does seem consistent with my interactions with other autistic people. I found it interesting because that was the first time I really understood that assigning greater meaning was a human thing, and not an individual thing that people do. There are enough genuinely religious and spiritual people here that I would doubt anything that said that all autistic people are atheists, for example.

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I do not know if I am even making sense. I should be in bed by now! LOL!

You are making sense.

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24 Apr 2013, 8:43 pm

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Ah, that treacherous lack of attention to detail... :wink:

You can do a search for the article, it was quite interesting.

Hey, I've got rather serious ADHD, give me a break! LOL!

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24 Apr 2013, 8:47 pm

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DonkeyBuster wrote:

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Ah, that treacherous lack of attention to detail... :wink:

You can do a search for the article, it was quite interesting.

Hey, I've got rather serious ADHD, give me a break! LOL!

Having ADHD and being autistic at the same time sucks. I hate how I can be super detail oriented and yet miss super obvious details.

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24 Apr 2013, 8:53 pm

InThisTogether wrote:

DonkeyBuster wrote:

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Ah, that treacherous lack of attention to detail... :wink:

You can do a search for the article, it was quite interesting.

Hey, I've got rather serious ADHD, give me a break! LOL!

OK, so you go be artistic while I take care of the details... :lol:

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24 Apr 2013, 9:42 pm

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That's "AVATAR"!

Tee hee.

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24 Apr 2013, 10:07 pm

I have one

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but it isn't me.

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24 Apr 2013, 10:23 pm

People who buy into that make me thankful that my parents and role models never taught me what I worry they're telling their children. I'm sad for the children, but curious to see what maladjusted monsters they grow into when they could have just been a little unusual. It might be worth a dark chuckle.

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24 Apr 2013, 11:01 pm

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Sounds alot like the whole indigo child craze maybe.

I was trying to remember the other name for it...yeah, indigo child. So what's your take...are you an indigo child?

I have been told by family i'm one at one time or another, I don't beleave in that garbage so no i'm not one. I'm just myself, a person who happend to beborn with asperger syndrome, a physical brain difference created by my family's genetics. Why I was chosen to take on this life form I don't know, perhaps luck of the draw, I do beleave in God however I don't beleave in the indigo child theroy or the crystal child one either.

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24 Apr 2013, 11:30 pm

The theroy behind the indigo/crystal child thing and the predictions of what we may do to change the world may make some sense, hance why meny buy into it, the question is, is the outcome taylor made to the children(some are actually now adults now) for the purpose of glorifying a disabled child?

I was told the indigo children come from my generation and below to shake up the world with our ridgit strong sense of social justice and the crystal children are being born now to clean up our mess. I don't know, I never paid much attention, i'm not wasteing anymore time on this trash.

I have also been told I have special healing powers, they must have seen me heal my truck and my guitar, they all work again after being hurt.

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25 Apr 2013, 12:08 am

I'm a little horrified by this mindset. It's hard enough to navigate life with autism, and now there's the added pressure to save the world?!? It's like the parent is saying the child isn't deserving or worthy of love and attention from his own merit.

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25 Apr 2013, 12:45 am

DonkeyBuster wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

I think an applicable word is "unfalsifiable." It's not even wrong.

It's my favorite new word too! Can you prove that this stuff is either falsifiable or unfalsifiable, or is it unfalsifiably unfalsifiable?

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