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23 Jun 2013, 1:27 pm

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I was going to respond to the librarian with a scathing riposte but i'll go against the grain.

What it boils down to is that too few employers are autistic themselves. Only then can we cultivate a employer sector that is truly empathetic to our plight. We need more of us to think outside the box and view ourselves as potential leaders rather than sheep.


What concrete steps would you advocate to make this transition?


I think the solution has to be a multi faceted approach. Firstly, I would like to see greater government intervention to identify, and invest in areas to cultivate industries that are more 'autism-friendly'. I think there should be allowances made to autistic adults with learning difficulties in regards to education opportunities who had problems in youth due to a prolonged diagnosis. Finally I would like to see a better support network between autistic individuals and autism charities, in terms of knowledge sharing and projects that will generate self sufficient living.


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23 Jun 2013, 10:59 pm

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What it boils down to is that too few employers are autistic themselves. Only then can we cultivate a employer sector that is truly empathetic to our plight. We need more of us to think outside the box and view ourselves as potential leaders rather than sheep.


I'd like to circle back to the above. Are you encouraging more Aspies to be "at the helm" of businesses?


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23 Jun 2013, 11:30 pm

Terrible idea, there is no need to expose your disorder to employers, no good can come from it.



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24 Jun 2013, 9:50 am

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I'm not sure why you think that we shouldn't have to fit in. I'm gainfully employed for one reason: I do my job and do it well. When that happens, employers will work with us. Mine certainly does. But that's only because they are appreciative of my performance, and not because of my problems. They are more concerned with what I can do than with what I can't.


While I agree with much of what the above quoted poster has written in this thread, I would like to suggest that not all employers are willing to accept employees who "do their job and do it well", usually for reasons that involve corporate culture.

This is no way should be taken as disagreement with the rest of the above poster's argument.


Palpatine, great point on corporate culture. Every organization does have its own culture. What's more, not all corporate cultures are equal; some are much more open and ethical than others. It is also the case that not all NT's can comfortably fit into all corporate cultures. So, this phenomenon is hardly limited to aspies.

Further, the good boss is one who puts the organization's mission ahead of personality. The bad boss is one who plays favorites instead. But there are a lot of bad bosses, and I don't see that changing. It's simply a workplace hazard.



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24 Jun 2013, 11:38 am

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thomas81 wrote:
What it boils down to is that too few employers are autistic themselves. Only then can we cultivate a employer sector that is truly empathetic to our plight. We need more of us to think outside the box and view ourselves as potential leaders rather than sheep.


I'd like to circle back to the above. Are you encouraging more Aspies to be "at the helm" of businesses?


Absolutely. I think autistics could steer business in a fairer, meritocratic, logical and utilitarian way rather than the culture of sychophancy and asininity that a lot of neurotypical CEO's gravitate towards.


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24 Jun 2013, 3:19 pm

Could we limit the reasons to "might lead to a more neurodiversity friendly workplace"?


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24 Jun 2013, 8:26 pm

Neurotypical Bosses don't like the attitude of the autistic because it challenges their authority.



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25 Jun 2013, 12:47 am

If I operated a business in a field in which I am likely to operate a business, then I would want to employ people who produced verry merry berry high-quality, detailed-oriented, perfectionist work with a minimum of interaction with me or each other.

There would be no need to rent an office, since eberryone would work from home.


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25 Jun 2013, 7:59 am

btbnnyr wrote:
If I operated a business in a field in which I am likely to operate a business, then I would want to employ people who produced verry merry berry high-quality, detailed-oriented, perfectionist work with a minimum of interaction with me or each other.

There would be no need to rent an office, since eberryone would work from home.


I wouldn't be so quick to rule out an office, there does appear to be a practical limit on the effectiveness of electronic communication.


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