mr_bigmouth_502
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19 Feb 2014, 4:30 pm
Fnord wrote:
OddFiction wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I figured out the chances of each sum of two six-sided dice when I was about ten years old. From this, I was able to deduce the times when a person was most likely to land on one of my Monopoly properties. On my last turn before theirs, I would build up those properties to the maximum allowed under the rules, and drive my opponents into bankruptcy. It wasn't so much that I was "banned" from playing Monopoly as it was that my siblings and parents got tired of losing against me.
Somewhat off topic, but a random thought here: Why not play monopoly with a single 12 sided die if someone is playing the odds? Your parents should have been more creative than just abandoning the positive growth opportunities (social and business lessons) of the game entirely.Two reasons: (1) 12-sided dice were relatively unknown outside of military combat simulations in the year 1967, when I was 10; and (2) the Monopoly game has rules governing the roll of "doubles" -- 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, et cetera -- that can not be easily replicated with a 12-sided die.
Here's the breakdown:
2: 1/36, or 35:1 against.
3: 2/36, or 17:1 against.
4: 3/36, or 11:1 against.
5: 4/36, or 8:1 against.
6: 5/36, or 31:5 against.
7: 6/36, or 5:1 against.
8: 5/36, or 31:5 against.
9: 4/36, or 8:1 against.
10: 3/36, or 11:1 against.
11: 2/36, or 17:1 against.
12: 1/36, or 35:1 against.
"Doubles" of any kind: 6/36, or 5:1 against.
But, if you combine the odds of rolling a 6, 7, or 8 (16/36 or 5:4 against), then you're betting at a 44.4% chance that someone only 6, 7, or 8 spaces behind your property will land on that property and have to pay you rent; and if that property is developed to the max, then your opponent will have to pay you maximum rent, as well!
Now, imagine how quickly the game will end (with you as the winner) if your three opponents each occupies one of the spaces that are 6, 7, or 8 spaces behind Boardwalk (Pacific Avenue, North Carolina Avenue, and Community Chest), which you own and have a hotel upon it.
THAT is why my siblings and parents stopped playing Monopoly with me.I actually just came up with an idea for how you could use a 12-sided die for Monopoly. Basically, you would roll first with two six-sided dice, and if you don't get doubles, then you would ignore what was rolled, and use the 12-sided die to decide the roll instead.
21 Feb 2014, 1:19 pm
Ok.. new rule, old dice:
No single player may build more than 12 houses and/or three hotels on any one side of the board; to do so would be to secure an unfair monopoly over the local economy 
Though the two dice sets is a good modification too, he's right that a 12 sider would have been tough to find back then. Hmm.. maybe a 16 sider, and if your roll is over 12, you are considered to have rolled doubles; roll again to get your actual move number ?
21 Feb 2014, 2:55 pm
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