Do you think laziness actually exists?

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22 Feb 2014, 6:51 pm

I think laziness is something people do for enjoyment, like sitting outside on a nice day just enjoying the weather, or cozying up in bed to watch movies on a rainy day. Even though you COULD be doing something more productive you just choose not to because it feels good to do something frivolous, or to do nothing at all. It's a fine thing to be lazy sometimes, nothing wrong with it.

If you are not enjoying it, if you feel restless about it or wish you could be getting something done, it's probably something other than laziness, like executive dysfunction, depression, anxiety, lack of motivation or incentive, tiredness, or fear of becoming fatigued or experiencing pain.



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22 Feb 2014, 7:03 pm

It absolutely exists.

Whether it is the case in any given situation is another question.



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22 Feb 2014, 7:31 pm

I do what I have to do.

The rest of the time I'm deeeeeeaaaaad lazy.


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22 Feb 2014, 11:09 pm

The definition from The 1947 Webster's Collegiate Dictionary Fifth Edition:
lazy, adg; 1. Disinclined to action or exertion; indolent; slothful.

Interpret as ye please!


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23 Feb 2014, 12:27 am

Laziness does exist. It is different than other things, such as lack of motivation since it is conscious action.


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23 Feb 2014, 2:00 am

Many things can account for "laziness". You could be lazy for not having a choice on what you can do. People perceive you as lazy for many reasons. Whether you deserve it or not.

My dad calls me lazy simply for refusing to exercise when I already have so much to do.



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23 Feb 2014, 3:48 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Sethno wrote:
cavernio wrote:
Sethno wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
Or do you think "laziness" is just executive dysfunction or fatigue?


There are lazy people.

That doesn't mean that you can easily tell the difference, tho.

Innocent people can be wrongly called "lazy".


So what separates these groups? How could you tell? What's the difference in mentality? That's the meat of the question, that's what I want to know! If there is a difference as you say surely you can at least partially describe it. :-)


Someone who could do more but doesn't, a loafer, would be lazy.

One example would be someone who is on welfare, and makes no effort to become self-supporting. This would be compared to someone who struggles over a period of time to work and just doesn't have the mental or physical assets needed to be self supporting. One isn't trying. The other is trying, even if they're failing.


But then the problem is who decides if someone is making an effort or not? Also depending on ones reason for being on welfare, being 'self-supporting' might not be a realistic goal so it wouldn't make much sense for them to put effort into that, or some people need to have treatment for their issue before they can start focusing on be coming self supporting. So I guess the point is there could be a reason for them not putting effort into that besides laziness.


I spoke not of others being able to tell. I spoke of what the differences are, and THAT is what this thread is about. IS there such a thing as being lazy? Yes, there is.

Done and done.

If you'd like a method of figuring out who is doing their best and who isn't, I'd suggest you invent a mind-reading machine, because that seems to be the only way you'd know for sure.


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24 Feb 2014, 9:19 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
It absolutely exists.

Whether it is the case in any given situation is another question.


People who say stuff like this are often looking for a reason to judge you for things that may be outside your control.

I have lifelong experience dealing with such.



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24 Feb 2014, 9:31 pm

I am not a lazy person, but I am sometimes lazy, and I choose not to do what I know that I should do that I know that I can do if I weren't being lazy at that time. It's OK to be lazy some of the time.


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24 Feb 2014, 9:59 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
I am not a lazy person, but I am sometimes lazy, and I choose not to do what I know that I should do that I know that I can do if I weren't being lazy at that time. It's OK to be lazy some of the time.


^^^^^

Lazy is a thing people do, not a thing that makes up what people are. It's a transient state.