Murder article emphasizes AS in perpetrator

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I can't help but feel sorry for this killer. I am 26 and have never kissed a girl or had sex. But I'd never hurt anyone. It's not in my nature.

I see you changed 'hipster' to 'person'. Is there a reason for that?

AS does not cause the death of the mind.

On the subject of the killer wanting to be with sorority girls...Why would anyone want to be with a stupid sorority girl?

right its more like a polio or rickets leaves a person
crippled for life
AS cripples you socially leaves you lingering on crutches
and everyone wants to take advantage

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I think it was the narcissistic side of him that couldn't just kill himself and wanted to kill others as well, because he felt his issues were other people's fault and in his mind he had to make them pay for it.

I have an uncle who is a narcissistic and he has been violent at times.

I don't know much about narcississism (haven't looked into it thoroughly yet) but I think its more serious (or at least it can be) than people think, its not just about thinking they're better than everyone else, its also blaming everyone else's for their problems, its never their fault, and they feel people should bow to them, and this can lead to violence when people don't do what they want. In fact I suspect that at least some dictators must have been narcississtic. Its just an opinion tho, like I said I don't know that much about the condition.

I kinda think bad publicity for ASDs (Lanza, this dude, Anders, Bryant, and whatnot) is a good thing to offset all of the cringeworthy geek syndrome drivel.

But, that's just me.

He was definitely not ugly. I like guys with feminine features, and some women really go for that. And I can't believe he couldn't get laid, just by saying "my dad directed the Hunger Games." But when he opens his mouth, you know right away he is batshit insane, so of course that was what scared women away. I'm also not convinced that he actually wanted to have sex with women.

He may have had AS, he may not have, but that wasn't the source of his problems. But I don't take anything about this story at face value anyway, considering the bizarre things that go on in Hollyweird and how some of those people offer up their children for ritual cult abuse. There is probably way more to this story than meets the eye.

if he had the money he could payfor sex
lot of rich people out there do that all the time
instead of going on a killing spree

And once again CCTV and Xinhua have omitted all information about his Asperger's diagnosis. The PRC sucks, but their censored media is awesome. F*** the western media, and their neo-Nazi ideologies. As China becomes the world's most dominant nation, I can only hope that its spirit of social harmony will start to thrive in western nations, and that people on the spectrum will be liberated from systematic discrimination.

You are idealising China. This is from 2010 https://www.flickr.com/photos/_free_iran_/4342335895/ .

Yeah, and then probably kill the hooker afterwards.

Look, this is the kind of guy who will go out and shoot innocent people. You can't stop that just by giving him enough money to hire someone to have sex with him.

Everyone has had adverse circumstances in their lives. For example, I was abused by two stepfathers, spent a year and a half in a cult, and was kicked out of school, fired from a job, and evicted from an apartment because I had a mental health diagnosis. I have been bullied at school and rejected at work. I did not make any friends until I was in my mid-twenties. I am thirty-one and I have never had sex, or kissed anyone, or had a date. I live under constant stress. I am autistic with ADHD, recurrent depression, PTSD, and I am on disability and unemployable.

The killer's excuse is that pretty girls won't have sex with him. Well, that's true about me, and then some. Why don't I go out and shoot a bunch of people? Simple: I don't want to. I don't kill people, and that's that. I care about people's right not to be shot by some jackass who's having a bad day, or a bad life. Just because sometimes my life sucks, doesn't mean it would get any better if I decided everybody else's life ought to suck, too. I've considered suicide--major depression will do that to you--but I would not ever consider taking anybody else with me.

That's because I'm not a killer. Because it's not right to kill people. There are very few moral principles as basic as that.

A lot of you have had a lot of bad things happen to you, too. And you didn't decide to go out and kill people over it, either. Some of you have had it much worse than I ever did, and ten times worse than that evil sunovabitch ever did. You didn't kill anybody, either. Sure, maybe you got mad; maybe you thought about how nice it would be if you could beat up somebody who harassed you; but you never killed anybody. What that guy did, was his choice. It wasn't something that just happens inevitably when you push the right buttons. It's something he decided to do, instead of finding help or talking to somebody or getting drunk or playing thirty-six straight hours of video games. What turns somebody into a killer isn't what other people do to him. It's what he's willing to do to others.

His manifesto is so weird.
He loses it whenever he finds out that a pretty girl in his class has a boyfriend, then he drops the class immediately, because he can't handle this fact.

agreed,but the manifesto just goes to show how deeply involved his narcisissm is.
narcisism is comes with extreme jealousy and envy,heres a good write up on it; read the bit on pathological jealousy especialy as it describes his manifesto right down to the last letter;
http://thenarcissisticlife.com/the-narc ... -jealousy/

its a load of BS that looks are needed to get a girl/boy friend,its all about being genuinely nice,having a good attitude towards others and being caring.
for some reason people online and offline have always taken it upon themselves to remind self am ugly;without regard for the fact am not in the least bit affected by looks. despite not fitting societys idea of what good looks means and despite being severely disabled and the most extreme form of asexual have been asked to be girlfriend to many males;including two males without disability.

even as a young child his attitude towards others was toxic, resentful and so self involved,am one of those who usualy doesnt like to question peoples diagnoses and can spot even the mildest ASDer a mile off having spent entire life around autists all over the spectrum but struggle to see the ASD in his manifesto, his social issues seem to stem greatly from his narcisism and the social anxiety he says he always had.

he has no issues with change and in fact shows a love of change;he has no sensory issues that show through the manifesto,he has no trouble socialising when there was something in it for him,his social anxiety clearly made him anxious about socialising but he doesnt appear to give off HFAs core social issues.
am not playing armchair doctor here and trying to rediagnose him, but just thinking out loud.

It's possible he was misdiagnosed. On the other hand--he could have had mild ASD, plus social anxiety, plus narcissism, plus the lack of compassion that evidently led him to think it was an acceptable choice for him to kill people. I don't see extreme ASD there, either, but we can hide it awfully well when we want to.

We don't have an increased risk of becoming killers. But "no increased risk" doesn't mean "no risk at all". Just like a neurotypical person can decide to kill people, so can we. This guy--whatever category his brain could be put into--is a human being who decided that because the world wouldn't bend to his will, he was going to take it out on everybody by killing them.

The "love of change" thing gives me pause, too. That's the exact opposite of what you'd expect in someone with an ASD--and it's exactly what you would expect from someone with antisocial personality disorder. That lack of impulse control and risk-taking behavior without regard for consequences seems to fit this guy much better.

But... it's not exactly much of a stretch of the imagination to say "antisocial personality disorder" about a murderer. It's nearly a given, in cases like this.

Perhaps there is a subtype of antisocial personality disorder that shares superficial characteristics with autism?

I was going to ask if someone had a link to his manifesto ... but then I learned in the news that it is 100+ pages, I'm not sure I will have the patience to read the whole thing.