Is it just me or is this all f****d up?

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It is unwise for you to assume that will be an option. She can very easily be unwilling, unable or unavailable. She might be willing and able. That would be nice. But you shouldn't count on it. Especially don't count on it for the long term.She may be willing and able to do it for a year or two but doing it for the rest of her and your life? If she does that, she won't be able to get married or really have any sort of live-in romantic relationship.


OK. So social services is out. And you won't get a job. Your only plan is to live indefinately off the money of relatives. This is a very unsafe plan, likely to fall apart. You haven't thought it through. You need to get serious about thinking it through instead of just assuming your relatives will always take care of everything or leave you enough money to do it yourself.



80 years. That's 60 more years from now. You think that either 1)your parents and grandparents will leave you enough money to survive for 60 (or 50 or 40 or 30) years or 2)your sister is willing to live with you for the rest of her life and fully support you? Seriously?

You are a selfish, useless person. I hope you grow out of this philosophy. Otherwise you are going to have a long, miserable life...or a short tragic one (and no one will care when you die except your family).

Whoa, hey, it's one thing to criticize someone's personal philosophy, but name-calling, really? That's kinda low.

Anyway, I can sort of see where the OP is coming from, because I too have a negative outlook on the world, as well as my own personal circumstances, to an extent. All I can say is, if life gives you lemons, juice 'em. Society may suck, but you can squeeze things out of it that can benefit you. Don't worry so much about your actions being a benefit to society, just worry about what they entail for you. Don't ask what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you.

Yes, can't you just feel the love on this thread? Please give it a rest guys.

Bad form, dude, really. That's uncalled for.

You dont know the guy. You cant really speak of or for him. All you do know is his topic, which appears to me as a form a venting. I do this, and I sound *way* nastier than he does when I get angry/irritated/bored/something (there's alot of reasons I call myself "Misery", and that's one of them).

But that only means so much. I've had people criticize me because of how negative I am, and how I'm "useless" and dont do a bloody thing, and blah blah blah.... but what the hell do they know? I care about friends and family, those close to me, and help them when needed, often going to quite a bit of trouble to do so. And isnt that what is important? For all we know, the OP could be a pretty nice person IRL, even if a bit negative. We dont really know him, and neither do you, that's for sure. Dont get me wrong: I agree that he sounds quite selfish. But one set of posts on a damn forum means little, particularly when the poster is in a dark mood.

Besides, I'd be interested to hear what your version of "useful" is. You think some low-end, craptastic job at McDonalds or something is "useful" to anyone?

The guy sounds like he could just use some help and someone to listen, and we get people like you, on a forum DEDICATED to that very idea, acting like that. It doesnt help at all. If you're going to be like that, this might not be the place for you.

I don't like the system we're living under so I actively work to change it in whatever small ways I can with what I have at my disposal. I am glad to be alive, so I don't blame my parents for bringing me into the world. I don't think we 'owe' our parents anything, but using the idea that your parents brought you into the world hence are responsible for catering to your consumer needs whilst stating you don't believe in consumerism is more than a bit of a cop-out.

I tend to feel kinda simular to that when people tell me how I should do something to contribute to society...I am not opposed to contributing to positive changes in society, but no desire to support the current status quo...though if I did not qualify for disability I imagine I'd still probably have to get a job regardless of those feelings about it.

You make the assumption that those on the spectrum are somehow apart from society rather than a defining facet of it. The photo was an analogy. The dolphin was not like other dolphins but cetacean society does not only consist of dolphins. It consists of whales too. And the dolphin found a place with the whales. You are not like NTs, but human society does not consist only of NTs and there are many out there who are more like you who count as part of human society, and who see no issue with you.

You don't need to be earning a wage to contribute to society. You can contribute to positive changes in places like WP, for instance, in your own life at the grocery store by being kind and gracious to others, and honestly just walking down the street. How we are in the world can affect changes in society on a small scale. Sometimes just talking about what is bothering you here, for instance, might affect changes in people who only read but never post.

One thing that sucks about our society is this idea that we have to be 'earning money' to be worthwhile or 'doing something with ourselves'. We can change that idea by not buying into it, for instance.

I am personally all for offering support to those venting and I do my best to help my fellow autistic kin whenever possible. But when we're dealing with someone who has uttered the following phrases:






You really think he's just blindly venting online? He is saying and doing these things in the name of being autistic and I'm not going to sit around and turn a blind eye to this kind of narcissistic behavior. We all try hard to shake the image of how we're negatively portrayed in society and how we're relatively nice/harmless individuals who are just misunderstood, and then this guy comes around and says these 4 quotes. You want me to give the guy a hug and tell him it's all gonna be okay?

I can understand fully well how hard life is, especially around age 20, because of struggles with autism. But this isn't the answer. Taking advantage of people who love you will never make you happy. Holding resentment at others solely for them existing will not make you happy. This type of attitude and neglect towards others livelihoods is absolutely unacceptable and he needs to know it. Threatening suicide every time he doesn't get his way is even more unacceptable.

If you support racism, murder, narcissism, by all means emphasize and side with the OP. The only support I can offer him is that if he doesn't want to work, he doesn't have to. Some autistics just aren't emotionally capable of handling employment and that's perfectly fine.

Yikes. I hadn't seen all of those quotes from this person. I think fair call, 886.

People, let's please keep it civil, otherwise this thread will be closed.

Where in this thread do you see people not being civil?

Calling others "selfish, useless person"

I remember so well feeling all this negativity about "society" and how "society" was rejecting me and pushing me to do this and that.

But then, coincident with a time when I found myself on a bridge high above a highway ready to step off, I said "Eff all of them, there are things I enjoy in this life and I am living for that. From now on, no thought for what 'they' want, expect, demand, etc. I am living for myself and my joys."

And very soon after this, it became clear to me that there is no "society" or "them." There are just many individuals who often act on similar scripts and expectations--but are always very individual the minute you learn anything about them.

I hope you can find freedom from all the crap in your head that you perceive as being about the world around you. I hope you can focus on the things you enjoy and find a way to delight in those things. I hope you can enjoy your existence.

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't see why it's racist to think that white people have an easier time of it. As for the other quotes, AFAIK the OP hasn't indicated whether he's proud of them or just confessing. I think the 4th quote is the most worrying, but even there it's not clear whether he's ever achieved his goal, or even tried to achieve it. I doubt that we're dealing with a dangerous narcissist, just somebody who is in a very bad way. You seem to be siding against him, which will only feed his hostile attitude and encourage him to do harm. I make no apology for expressing some empathy for the guy, but empathising and taking sides are different things. I think taking sides either way here would be a mistake.

But I hope that won't be seen as an attempt to belittle your anger. The OP's words are pretty disturbing.