Do you find the world cold, inhospitable and cruel?

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14 Mar 2015, 4:12 pm

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TO ME, the world is hopelessly cold, inhospitable and cruel. To someone else, this will not be the case.


Yup.
Totally different.
The world just is.
Seasons come and go, although them seem a bit different than when I was a kid.
Society sucks though.
Humans are calculating and superficial.
Social skills are all about keeping up appearances.
And favours are about keeping tabs.
For the majority anyway...



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15 Mar 2015, 1:53 pm

Sherry221B wrote:
I have just thought that, if you could learn something about it, you could manage somehow on your own. I know how difficult it is, though. I understand your difficulties. What about experience? Have your experiences showed that it is better to do something instead of something else? Has that helped you?


It has helped a little, in terms of people tolerating me a bit more. For example, I'm less inclined to go on and on in e-mails;in the past it was stream-of-consciousness w/o stopping, regardless of the audience. Beyond that, I'm unable to make any real connections - the subtleties escape me. There are so many unwritten rules; I can sense that they exist, and I know that I am breaking them. :(



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15 Mar 2015, 2:33 pm

existentialterror wrote:
Sherry221B wrote:
I have just thought that, if you could learn something about it, you could manage somehow on your own. I know how difficult it is, though. I understand your difficulties. What about experience? Have your experiences showed that it is better to do something instead of something else? Has that helped you?


It has helped a little, in terms of people tolerating me a bit more. For example, I'm less inclined to go on and on in e-mails;in the past it was stream-of-consciousness w/o stopping, regardless of the audience. Beyond that, I'm unable to make any real connections - the subtleties escape me. There are so many unwritten rules; I can sense that they exist, and I know that I am breaking them. :(


I sometimes think that we are better off remaining obviously odd than to study social rules and come off in a way that makes people "strangely uneasy".


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15 Mar 2015, 2:42 pm

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I sometimes think that we are better off remaining obviously odd than to study social rules and come off in a way that makes people "strangely uneasy".


You hit the nail on the head - completely agree with this. It is exactly my problem, I believe.



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15 Mar 2015, 2:46 pm

Yes

I can relate to that. people pretend to like you, pretend to be your friends, and then turn around and betray you. people seem so sweet you cant believe they'll do wrong, and then they act horrible. we cant read people very well.

We live in a sick society where the weak are mistreated simply because they're weak. look at abuse in old age homes and foster care. no one does anything about it.

You dont have to take all the medicine they give you. sometimes they drug people to make them easier to deal with so staff wouldnt have to work too hard.

Every person I see, I wonder if he/she is as nice as he pretneds to be, if he's a psychopath and I just cant see it. i'm very insecure about my inability to read people's motives and see their real face, the way nts can. I live among people who some of them would murder me if they werent afraid of the consequences, just because they can. and many of them hate me because i'm not like them.


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15 Mar 2015, 3:05 pm

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It has helped a little, in terms of people tolerating me a bit more. For example, I'm less inclined to go on and on in e-mails;in the past it was stream-of-consciousness w/o stopping, regardless of the audience. Beyond that, I'm unable to make any real connections - the subtleties escape me. There are so many unwritten rules; I can sense that they exist, and I know that I am breaking them. :(


I meant if your past experiences have helped you. Otherwise, it is unrelated to making "connections"...For that to happen there are certain requirements. I personally think that, you can stay the way you are, but also learning more about social things. This is more for convenience; because learning that, and being more aware about these things, it can make you less vulnerable. At least, in the social area.



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15 Mar 2015, 3:14 pm

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I can relate to that. people pretend to like you, pretend to be your friends, and then turn around and betray you. people seem so sweet you cant believe they'll do wrong, and then they act horrible. we cant read people very well.

We live in a sick society where the weak are mistreated simply because they're weak. look at abuse in old age homes and foster care. no one does anything about it.

You dont have to take all the medicine they give you. sometimes they drug people to make them easier to deal with so staff wouldnt have to work too hard.

Every person I see, I wonder if he/she is as nice as he pretneds to be, if he's a psychopath and I just cant see it. i'm very insecure about my inability to read people's motives and see their real face, the way nts can. I live among people who some of them would murder me if they werent afraid of the consequences, just because they can. and many of them hate me because i'm not like them.


I know perfectly what you mean. However, I disagree about that being mistreated is because of being weak. There can be individuals who can be mentally strong, but they do not know it. Just because you are a victim, it does not mean that you are weak. If you asked me what to do about this, something I would write: I do not think that it is good to let fear overcome, as it can impair your thinking which would not allow you to think clearly.

It is unfortunate that there are so many individuals who dislike what is different from most of them.