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08 Apr 2015, 12:15 pm

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And I can argue all day long about this. Your post was rude and you are a troll. I do not believe for one second that your post was just meant for "some people." You posted it because you think you are better than we are. Well, you're wrong. You're just different and your rude/ condescending comments will not be taken lightly here.

I am not a troll, and i dont think im better than you. :)

I am not trying to be rude to you either.



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08 Apr 2015, 12:19 pm

Well I don't think the OP intended to troll or be rude, but should not generalize about the condition. Most of us are quite content thank you very much and I'm pleased that I have an enquiring and interesting one of a kind mind, as do most of the folks on here who are truly interesting, deep thinkers, and not at all inclined to follow the rest of the world blindly and seek out the latest boring gossip.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:21 pm

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Well I don't think the OP intended to troll or be rude, but should not generalize about the condition. Most of us are quite content thank you very much and I'm pleased that I have an enquiring and interesting one of a kind mind, as do most of the folks on here who are truly interesting, deep thinkers, and not at all inclined to follow the rest of the world blindly and seek out the latest boring gossip.

Thanks and its good that you are happy.



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08 Apr 2015, 12:23 pm

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I feel sincerely deep pity and sadness for the OP. She is clearly going to be ripped a new one.

Yes I was ripped a new one. Wow. Sorry I offended so many people wow. Im i not allowed to make a mistake?


Yes, you are, but only as someone pretty much on the spectrum. :mrgreen:



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08 Apr 2015, 12:25 pm

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I don't want a neurotypical brain, and I do not despretely wish to be normal....if my brain was supposed to function neurotypically I would have been born neurotypical. Granted there are some difficulties in interacting with people, sensory sensitivity and well plenty of things but its not all bad. Also some people on the spectrum can hold jobs...I myself am not working and have SSI, but I also have mental conditions in addition to the autism. But a big barrier to jobs is employers being unwilling to hire anyone who's not a bubbly social butterfly. If society was more welcoming to people with different neurologies or mental conditions and better at providing proper support/accommodations it would not be as much of an issue.

Quite frankly I do not think someone turning my brain 'neurotypical' would make me feel better about myself or reduce the mental health issues I have...then I'd just be a neurotypical with PTSD, Depression and Generalized Anxiety rather than an autistic person with those. I'd also still have all my memories....also I figure it would be difficult trying to operate a drastically different brain. I also don't really have much of an extreme ego...and I have friends and family I hang out with.

Some how I get the impression this is trolling rather than genuine concern...Or do you really think being neurotypical is what makes you happy in your life, so you assume it would be the same for us?
This obviously doesnt apply to you at all and yes there has to be atleast 1 person her who would be happier if they were neurotypical.


I am pretty certain there are...some here have expressed wanting to be neurotypical, I simply cannot wrap my head around that. Also I think some might think becoming neurotypical would magically make all their problems go away and make their life fall into place....and I doubt that would be the case even if it did happen. They'd still have the memories and how they grew up/where raised and any conditions aside from the autism they'd still have, they could be just as unhappy as a neurotypical, so i figure they should keep that in mind.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:26 pm

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I feel sincerely deep pity and sadness for the OP. She is clearly going to be ripped a new one.

Yes I was ripped a new one. Wow. Sorry I offended so many people wow. Im i not allowed to make a mistake?


Yes, you are, but only as someone pretty much on the spectrum. :mrgreen:

I dont get what your trying to say?



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08 Apr 2015, 12:27 pm

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I don't want a neurotypical brain, and I do not despretely wish to be normal....if my brain was supposed to function neurotypically I would have been born neurotypical. Granted there are some difficulties in interacting with people, sensory sensitivity and well plenty of things but its not all bad. Also some people on the spectrum can hold jobs...I myself am not working and have SSI, but I also have mental conditions in addition to the autism. But a big barrier to jobs is employers being unwilling to hire anyone who's not a bubbly social butterfly. If society was more welcoming to people with different neurologies or mental conditions and better at providing proper support/accommodations it would not be as much of an issue.

Quite frankly I do not think someone turning my brain 'neurotypical' would make me feel better about myself or reduce the mental health issues I have...then I'd just be a neurotypical with PTSD, Depression and Generalized Anxiety rather than an autistic person with those. I'd also still have all my memories....also I figure it would be difficult trying to operate a drastically different brain. I also don't really have much of an extreme ego...and I have friends and family I hang out with.

Some how I get the impression this is trolling rather than genuine concern...Or do you really think being neurotypical is what makes you happy in your life, so you assume it would be the same for us?
This obviously doesnt apply to you at all and yes there has to be atleast 1 person her who would be happier if they were neurotypical.


I am pretty certain there are...some here have expressed wanting to be neurotypical, I simply cannot wrap my head around that. Also I think some might think becoming neurotypical would magically make all their problems go away and make their life fall into place....and I doubt that would be the case even if it did happen. They'd still have the memories and how they grew up/where raised and any conditions aside from the autism they'd still have, they could be just as unhappy as a neurotypical, so i figure they should keep that in mind.
and why am I being called a troll for "addressing these people" ?



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08 Apr 2015, 12:32 pm

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Welcome to WP! Now you know not to make generalizations or act like you are better than the rest of us. :D
I dont see where in my post that said "I am better than you"


You never explicitly stated it, no, but it was dripping with implications as such. You should've lurked here a bit longer before posting, as you'd learn that your generalizations are insulting and patronizing. Hence, the response here.


Allow me to fix your original post...

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"I Feel Sorry For People with NeuroTypical Brains"

They will have a very hard time enjoying life. Your brain is basically boring and generic. I can only Imagine the complete cluelessness and Extreme difficulty you will have dealing with unimportant social frivolities and the quest for social status. I can only Imagine how hard it would be for you to constantly seek other people's approval. When your brain cannot even comprehend that others experience life differently than you. I can only Imagine how Desperately you wish you were unique. How you desperately want others to validate your existence, how you desperately wish you could be yourself even just for a single day.
I can only Imagine the embarressment in life.

I can only Imagine the extreme ego that may result as a defence mechanism of the condistion. And its not any of your faults.

You are "forced" into being that way, if i could I would relieve all of you of your suffering. If i could i would take all of your NT traits and give you my Autistic Brain. I am truly hurting for you.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:32 pm

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Well I don't think the OP intended to troll or be rude, but should not generalize about the condition. Most of us are quite content thank you very much and I'm pleased that I have an enquiring and interesting one of a kind mind, as do most of the folks on here who are truly interesting, deep thinkers, and not at all inclined to follow the rest of the world blindly and seek out the latest boring gossip.


Yeah that is why I said I was not sure if they are a troll or not...I mean I could see a troll making a post like that, but I could also see someone without the condition who has heard a lot of stuff about how terrible it is making such a post out of concern. For instance people think having schizophrenia is a constant living hell all of the time...well according to some with the condition they wouldn't quite put it that way....I have met various people with that condition and I couldn't really tell until they mentioned it, also they aren't always having a psychotic break or delusion or anything like some people assume. So if its not a troll post I'd just say its somewhat ignorance...and people cannot always help being ignorant on certain topics, though willful ignorance is obnoxious.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:37 pm

ASPickle wrote:
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nyxjord wrote:
Welcome to WP! Now you know not to make generalizations or act like you are better than the rest of us. :D
I dont see where in my post that said "I am better than you"


You never explicitly stated it, no, but it was dripping with implications as such. You should've lurked here a bit longer before posting, as you'd learn that your generalizations are insulting and patronizing. Hence, the response here.


Allow me to fix your original post...

Quote:
"I Feel Sorry For People with NeuroTypical Brains"

They will have a very hard time enjoying life. Your brain is basically boring and generic. I can only Imagine the complete cluelessness and Extreme difficulty you will have dealing with unimportant social frivolities and the quest for social status. I can only Imagine how hard it would be for you to constantly seek other people's approval. When your brain cannot even comprehend that others experience life differently than you. I can only Imagine how Desperately you wish you were unique. How you desperately want others to validate your existence, how you desperately wish you could be yourself even just for a single day.m
I can only Imagine the embarressment in life.

I can only Imagine the extreme ego that may result as a defence mechanism of the condistion. And its not any of your faults.

You are "forced" into being that way, if i could I would relieve all of you of your suffering. If i could i would take all of your NT traits and give you my Autistic Brain. I am truly hurting for you.
But arent you guys equally as generalizing by saying "all people with aspergers are happy"? It was a simply mistake that could of been fixed by the phrase "to who this may concern" I dont see how two wrongs ever make a right.



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08 Apr 2015, 12:39 pm

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and why am I being called a troll for "addressing these people" ?


Probably because there have been trolls who have made kind of similar posts, but out of malice...or sometimes people will leave a post and never come back and explain anything. But if your not one don't worry about it...its the internet if someone here remains convinced you are one than that is on them but shouldn't effect your life since they don't really know you as a person...at least I'd hope.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:42 pm

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and why am I being called a troll for "addressing these people" ?


Probably because there have been trolls who have made kind of similar posts, but out of malice...or sometimes people will leave a post and never come back and explain anything. But if your not one don't worry about it...its the internet if someone here remains convinced you are one than that is on them but shouldn't effect your life since they don't really know you as a person...at least I'd hope.
True, but it still feels bad in your heart when your kindness was mistaken for malice, i have emotions . But your right.



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08 Apr 2015, 12:44 pm

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and why am I being called a troll for "addressing these people" ?


Probably because there have been trolls who have made kind of similar posts, but out of malice...or sometimes people will leave a post and never come back and explain anything. But if your not one don't worry about it...its the internet if someone here remains convinced you are one than that is on them but shouldn't effect your life since they don't really know you as a person...at least I'd hope.
True, but it still feels bad in your heart when your kindness was mistaken for malice, i have emotions . But your right.


Well that is true, though if you had autism you might have it assumed on a regular basis that you don't have emotions or any kind of empathy for others.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:47 pm

IBeatAutism wrote:
A troll is some who says things to upset people, how did i manage to upset any of you?

With condescension, arrogance, and a general lack of understanding.

For the record, my opinion is "Troll".



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08 Apr 2015, 12:53 pm

IBeatAutism wrote:
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IBeatAutism wrote:
nyxjord wrote:
Welcome to WP! Now you know not to make generalizations or act like you are better than the rest of us. :D
I dont see where in my post that said "I am better than you"


You never explicitly stated it, no, but it was dripping with implications as such. You should've lurked here a bit longer before posting, as you'd learn that your generalizations are insulting and patronizing. Hence, the response here.


Allow me to fix your original post...

Quote:
"I Feel Sorry For People with NeuroTypical Brains"

They will have a very hard time enjoying life. Your brain is basically boring and generic. I can only Imagine the complete cluelessness and Extreme difficulty you will have dealing with unimportant social frivolities and the quest for social status. I can only Imagine how hard it would be for you to constantly seek other people's approval. When your brain cannot even comprehend that others experience life differently than you. I can only Imagine how Desperately you wish you were unique. How you desperately want others to validate your existence, how you desperately wish you could be yourself even just for a single day.m
I can only Imagine the embarressment in life.

I can only Imagine the extreme ego that may result as a defence mechanism of the condistion. And its not any of your faults.

You are "forced" into being that way, if i could I would relieve all of you of your suffering. If i could i would take all of your NT traits and give you my Autistic Brain. I am truly hurting for you.
But arent you guys equally as generalizing by saying "all people with aspergers are happy"? It was a simply mistake that could of been fixed by the phrase "to who this may concern" I dont see how two wrongs ever make a right.


No one here said everyone with ASD is happy. Your OP title didn't say anything about a subset of the ASD community, then immediately followed with a listing of generalities and assumptions on your part about how our minds work. That's a gross over-simplification of our community that would've been fixed by lurking longer in the first place, as I suggested. I simply changed a few words in your OP to point out how disparaging such a post would look to someone being posted about. That you took offense should tell you everything you need to know about the reaction you are receiving here.


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08 Apr 2015, 12:54 pm

ASPickle wrote:
IBeatAutism wrote:
ASPickle wrote:
IBeatAutism wrote:
nyxjord wrote:
Welcome to WP! Now you know not to make generalizations or act like you are better than the rest of us. :D
I dont see where in my post that said "I am better than you"


You never explicitly stated it, no, but it was dripping with implications as such. You should've lurked here a bit longer before posting, as you'd learn that your generalizations are insulting and patronizing. Hence, the response here.


Allow me to fix your original post...

Quote:
"I Feel Sorry For People with NeuroTypical Brains"

They will have a very hard time enjoying life. Your brain is basically boring and generic. I can only Imagine the complete cluelessness and Extreme difficulty you will have dealing with unimportant social frivolities and the quest for social status. I can only Imagine how hard it would be for you to constantly seek other people's approval. When your brain cannot even comprehend that others experience life differently than you. I can only Imagine how Desperately you wish you were unique. How you desperately want others to validate your existence, how you desperately wish you could be yourself even just for a single day.m
I can only Imagine the embarressment in life.

I can only Imagine the extreme ego that may result as a defence mechanism of the condistion. And its not any of your faults.

You are "forced" into being that way, if i could I would relieve all of you of your suffering. If i could i would take all of your NT traits and give you my Autistic Brain. I am truly hurting for you.
But arent you guys equally as generalizing by saying "all people with aspergers are happy"? It was a simply mistake that could of been fixed by the phrase "to who this may concern" I dont see how two wrongs ever make a right.


No one here said everyone with ASD is happy. Your OP title didn't say anything about a subset of the ASD community, then immediately followed with a listing of generalities and assumptions on your part about how our minds work. That's a gross over-simplification of our community that would've been fixed by lurking longer in the first place, as I suggested. I simply changed a few words in your OP to point out how disparaging such a post would look to someone being posted about. That you took offense should tell you everything you need to know about the reaction you are receiving here.

I see now.