Ridicule is THE MOST BRAINLESS THING EVER

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I've been coming to that realization with a lot of things, and it does make life a lot better.

I think the movie "Waterboy" is a good demonstration of ridicule, especially against someone who has a hard time fitting in socially. Of course it's just a comedy, but I still recommend it.

I thought it interesting how it got a lot of bad reviews when it came out. The hive didn't really like what they did there with this movie.





Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waterboy

I love that movie It got bad reviews? I saw it twice in the theater, and both times the theater was absolutely jam packed full of people roaring with laughter.

Some of the reviews are in the wiki entry.

On a related note...

“'If you don't know how to pronounce a word, say it loud!' (William Strunk) ... Why compound ignorance with inaudibility?”
- E.B. White, The Elements of Style

I agree. This is the best post that I've seen on WP in a long time. Being a sensitive person myself, I see where you are coming from.

Do you feel that it sets off an uncontrollable, or hard to control, flood of intense emotion from your subconscious?

The subconscious is where those memes exist that try to make you feel bad or experience chemical punishment, and they are triggered by your subconscious perceptions of what other people do and say.

Your conscious thought sees what those people do/say for what it is, which is just harmless garbage. Words cannot define you or harm you. But, they can trigger memetic algorithms in your subconscious that can cause you great discomfort.

Aw, thank you. That means a lot to me.



Yes. And not always at the time it happens, sometimes only when I think about it and remember it later.



That makes perfect sense.

I also experience this process and it's the source of several conditions like depression, anxiety, and dissociation/detachment.
I'm not comfortable with my subconscious. I don't trust it. It seems out of control and causes me pain. The feelings and/or intuitions that come from my subconscious are often illogical, incorrect, or misleading.
Over the years I've learned to (been conditioned to) heavily filter everything that comes from my subconscious. The filters do a combination of things that create separations between conscious thought and the real time information coming from the subconscious. My conscious thought just does not want to deal with that garbage as it is produced in real time. Unfortunately sometimes the emotion is so strong or intense, like fear, that it gets past the filters and causes great discomfort like anxiety.
It's a bit like Vulcans on Star Trek experiencing control problems.

Generally, what my subconscious does seems like quantum probability computations. Conversely, I can clearly see my conscious thought in operation and it uses learned binary logic, thus giving more concrete results in binary form, - either this or that, yes or no. I trust my conscious thought much more. Also, my conscious thought doesn't directly punish me, though conscious thoughts can trigger my subconscious to do it by triggering emotions.

I've heard this described as right brain vs left brain. Apparently there's supposed to be some sort of cooperative system of checks and balances, but mine does not seem very balanced.

Back on topic, I think that abusive triggering and/or manipulation of the subconscious by others leads to the conditioning that results in dissociation/detachment, - basically PTSD because it is mentally traumatic.

^^terrebly so
at first I know there's a projection trown on me and am able to see it as it is, but generally in about a day,that gets stuck in being processed negatively and that's a boring habit!

some things, like saying god wants female genital mutilation, deserve ridicule. i've seen such ridicule done in a very clever, not brainless at all, way.

Yes I agree...basically the way I would put it is that certain people programmed me to hate myself. I don't "agree" with that, and yet the process still runs in the back of my mind, like a virus that wreaks havoc every so often.



Same for me, I usually don't even take it personally at first, but some time later it sinks in anyway...then some of those things get triggered and reactivated even later on.



^Wondering if this is why I tend to have delayed emotional reactions to things(?)

I definitely do have delayed reactions.

I've resurrected this thread about ridicule for three reasons:

1) It seems a number of members (all over WP, not this thread) don't know the rules of WP, or have forgotten them with time. Maybe today is the time to have a refresh if you can't think of what the rules say off the top of your head right now!

2) I think it is far to say that the ridicule rule is breached quite often. It seems to most often arise in the context of disagreement, as a toxic form of disagreement (disagreement is fine, toxic disagreement is not fine).

3) Ridicule can be very triggering for people, especially so if they have grown up with parents who typically used this as a form of control, so it is not a minor thing. The triggering can throw them back instantly to those feelings of powerlessness and hurt that children subjected to relentless shaming tend to carry on into adult life, unless significant healing has occurred. Used to diminish another, ridicule is a form of emotional and psychological abuse. Personally it upsets me to see wounded people (and we have all be wounded one way or another in the past) deliberately wound other already wounded people and often for no more than that the target expressed a different opinion. It can spiral down to a level of unpleasantness where it becomes an urgent moderation issue. My hope is that members will self-moderate before it reaches that point of uproar.

So as a general reminder: ridicule is a specified part within the rules:

Excerpt:

Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect

It is impossible for mods to be all over the forums policing this. Most members never ridicule others. You know who you are! Take a big bow )))))))))