Am I the only person who truly doesn't need friends...

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16 Jul 2015, 4:05 pm

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I don't believe I am in need of friends, but I do require an aspiration which isn't ultimately self-destructive; self-mutilation and suicidal ideation have fascinated me in the past. Personally, it's rather difficult because I must be one of the rare folks on the spectrum who doesn't possess any real "gift" or even an intense interest in something.

The equation really is quite simple:

Uncomprehendingly poor social skills + a low level of intellect = Doomed for life


Ah that's not so. It's only your perception. Social skills can slowly be improved even for us. You can always improve yourself a little if you don't feel happy yourself. Intellect isn't everything, you ought to know. Also I think your intellect would be average at least.
Also I don't have a 'gift' either, actually I think most aspies don't.


Irrefutably there is a lot more to life than one's intellectual abilities, but to exist in this game we call "life" without ostensibly any authentic emotions has, on occasion, led me to question my own existence. And yes, I acknowledge that it is an utterly absurd perspective to have on life.


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16 Jul 2015, 4:25 pm

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I am in two minds on the subject. My general attitude towards the majority of people I meet verges on contempt but I do sometimes meet people who fascinate me and enrich my life. I am a much happier and well balanced person because of them and I am prepared to risk getting screwed over and bullied to meet them.

Most people are jerks but it's worth enduring them to meet the gems.

This post pretty much expresses how I feel about it.

While I seem to have become immune to loneliness, I do feel very happy when I meet genuinely good people who are happy to spend time with me. Most people are mean-natured and I'd rather not have anything to do with them.



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16 Jul 2015, 5:07 pm

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3. ToughDiamond, the way you think and the things you've expressed, make so much sense to me, and I have acquired vast knowledge and insight from you/your comments (in various threads. not solely within this one).

Very kind of you to say so :D The outpourings of my brain aren't everybody's cup of tea, so it's nice to know when somebody relates to them.



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16 Jul 2015, 5:11 pm

Britte wrote:
After reading through the additional comments, I would say that:

1. Starfox, I actually wish to be more balanced, and I admire the ability you have, not to care so much, and I wish I were more like you in this sense. I do not see it as a flaw, or negative in any way. I don't have a need for more than one friend at a time, but, I know that probably isn't what you had meant, within your original post, although, I may be wrong.



Ah thank you :)


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16 Jul 2015, 5:32 pm

I hope my advice is everybody's cup of coffee!



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16 Jul 2015, 5:41 pm

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I hope my advice is everybody's cup of coffee!

I think you give good advice :)


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16 Jul 2015, 6:03 pm

starfox wrote:
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I hope my advice is everybody's cup of coffee!

I think you give good advice :)


I concur! And, you offer tons of positive encouragement to others, and there's nothing better than that, @Kraftie!



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16 Jul 2015, 6:06 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
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3. ToughDiamond, the way you think and the things you've expressed, make so much sense to me, and I have acquired vast knowledge and insight from you/your comments (in various threads. not solely within this one).

Very kind of you to say so :D The outpourings of my brain aren't everybody's cup of tea, so it's nice to know when somebody relates to them.


I relate to them, most definitely! :mrgreen:



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16 Jul 2015, 6:08 pm

Thanks so much!



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16 Jul 2015, 7:37 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope my advice is everybody's cup of coffee!

You're much better than coffee. You cheer me up more, and you don't stain my teeth or give me high blood pressure.



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16 Jul 2015, 7:58 pm

I will respond to the thread-title in particular...

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Am I The Only Person Who Truly Doesn't Need Friends...

First of all I do chat to people. I'm not not complete loner but I really don't care a bit about fitting in with people or being similar to others.

Lots of people are worried about how they come across to others, if they they are being judged, becoming jealous of others and using social one upmanship just for the sake of it. I feel feel like I'm literally one of the only people who truly does not give a damn about this stuff.

I do care about other people but not at at all about their social lives or similar useless info. I'm always nice to people and I chat nice to them but if there is a problemI just drop them like they didn't exist.

No one else seems to have the ability to be like that and I wonder why.

I dislike socialising (particularly in-person). I do not own a telephone. Even when I did own one, when I needed to contact someone or some business about something, I would go to that location in-person instead (but not to socialise). I prefer & value the time I can get to myself. I do not like communicating via telephone (like I said, I do not own one, and even when I did, like I said earlier...) and prefer not to be bothered as I'm usually keeping myself busy 24/7.

Also, the reason why most of us are here on these forums, I think has something to do with something called: Asperger's

...thus... I would think that a lot of us may not necessarily be alone in who we are even if it may seem that way.

I will also mention that I absolutely dislike associating with people who are full of negative-emotions. Already had to deal with growing up with aggressively abusive-parents that acted like alcoholics (one having been a former alcoholic himself), and it's something that I will not tolerate from others (and I will and I have dropped such people from my life like hot-potatoes). I also find that such people tend to be very multi-faced anyway, like a Jekyll & Hyde syndrome, and associating with such dishonest people has only ever brought problems into my life, unnecessarily.

The typical NT will not remain my friend if he cannot contain his own out-bursts of anger over stupid reasons, especially when those out-bursts are directed towards me when I had done nothing to start a conflict, and my experiences with the typical NTs have shown me that they are always randomly trying to create problems where none exist & always seem to intentionally start & perpetuate arguments (even when it has already been proven that they are in the wrong and it's even worse when they continue to argue whilst remaining willfully ignorant).

People who do not know how to study on their own, who do not know how to research on their own, who do not know how to fact-check on their own, who do not know how to formulate a convincing argument, and who have no f*****g clue how to control their own damn emotions from turning into an irrational Jekyll & Hyde syndrome nut-case, they simply aren't worth my time, and I do not care for such people to be a part of my life anyway (the addiction that they have to drama-causing behaviours is just utterly stupid as far as I'm concerned).


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26 Jul 2015, 3:52 pm

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Once I reached my 20's, I only wanted a partner, no need for friends whatsoever. I haven't had a friend for almost 20 years now, but that became a problem for my partner as she became more confident and began making new friends with partners who would want to meet up and do stuff as couples. So she eventually left me because she couldn't lead a 'normal' life with me.


Is your former partner an Aspie or a NT?



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29 Jun 2016, 1:16 pm

starfox wrote:
First of all I do chat to people. I'm not not complete loner but I really don't care a bit about fitting in with people or being similar to others.

Lots of people are worried about how they come across to others, if they they are being judged, becoming jealous of others and using social one upmanship just for the sake of it. I feel feel like I'm literally one of the only people who truly does not give a damn about this stuff.

I do care about other people but not at at all about their social lives or similar useless info. I'm always nice to people and I chat nice to them but if there is a problemI just drop them like they didn't exist.

No one else seems to have the ability to be like that and I wonder why.


I suspect it's because of Asperger's syndrom lolz. This independence is one of your great strengths and other people can be jealous of it. Every strength has a downside however...a pitfall. The pitfall is isolating yourself and loneliness slowly creeping in, very slowly. Another possibility is boredom. Other people can bring color in your life.

I've been like this and still am in many ways, a total loner not needing others much, but with a minority complex however and felt that after long periods I would feel the need to have a friend. It was just very rare that I would find one. I would have liked to have many cool friends but there weren't many candidates. Most people were just so shallow and boring. This is not a helpful belief to have so I keep a more open mind about people and now it's much more open than the average person's. But still, connections that feel real are rare.

The minority complex I would get comparing myself with others, who were much more succesful in life, while mine was a struggle. I am more sensitive towards those other people than I'd like to admit. I don't want to be seen as lesser. I want respect. But have had this "stay at a distance" force field around me somehow, I just didn't know how to connect to people it's like Seymour says in Ghost World "I can't relate to 99% of humanity" and I still have difficulty though there have been clear small steps to improvements and some friends in my small circle. On my own terms still, I don't do birthdays and all that BS.

This is the social aspect but there's another important part of life: work. I strive to be 100% independent, no job and have my own small company. I don't hate people they just can get in my way :mrgreen:

So yes I can dig on a certain level! People can be annoying, stupid, illogical and full of ****. But hey so can I, sometimes...it's just that I seem to be more logical and respectful.