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cheryll
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27 Aug 2015, 3:02 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
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some of these churches nowadays are like social clubs and there are a lot of 'Christians' that don't even read their bibles, pray or even know who God and Jesus really are.

Yes. Although I've never personally noticed a service that doesn't get the congregation to "pray" or sing some confirmation of belief in (and high regard for) a deity, they might exist, and I'm sure that some sects are far less likely than others to actually pry into the beliefs of the individual churchgoer. Though they never issue a guarantee, so I'm always slightly apprehensive when I have anything to do with priests that they'll bring it up and I'll have to choose between lying and causing embarrassment. Here's a place that wouldn't create that problem:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... y-assembly

Not that I expect I'd like that much either. It looks like they go in for charismatic leaders (I don't trust those), and I don't like the general idea of trying to set atheism up as a quasi-religion. To me, like to most secular people I know, calling atheism a religion is like calling not collecting stamps a hobby.

I haven't been to a church yet that didn't have prayers, but there are a lot of churches that have worship songs which sound more like pop music than hymns and I'm not sure how biblically sound some are . Yes, I read something about the Sunday assembly for non-believers once, but I'm not really sure what to make of that. I get what you mean about charismatic leaders and they kind of give me the creeps.



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27 Aug 2015, 4:04 pm

cheryll wrote:
there are a lot of churches that have worship songs which sound more like pop music than hymns and I'm not sure how biblically sound some are

Personally I agree with Hank Hill when he said "you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock music worse." But I have to concede that secular soul music was actually stolen from Christianity.



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28 Aug 2015, 11:21 am

cheryll wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
cheryll wrote:
some of these churches nowadays are like social clubs and there are a lot of 'Christians' that don't even read their bibles, pray or even know who God and Jesus really are.

Yes. Although I've never personally noticed a service that doesn't get the congregation to "pray" or sing some confirmation of belief in (and high regard for) a deity, they might exist, and I'm sure that some sects are far less likely than others to actually pry into the beliefs of the individual churchgoer. Though they never issue a guarantee, so I'm always slightly apprehensive when I have anything to do with priests that they'll bring it up and I'll have to choose between lying and causing embarrassment. Here's a place that wouldn't create that problem:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... y-assembly

Not that I expect I'd like that much either. It looks like they go in for charismatic leaders (I don't trust those), and I don't like the general idea of trying to set atheism up as a quasi-religion. To me, like to most secular people I know, calling atheism a religion is like calling not collecting stamps a hobby.

I haven't been to a church yet that didn't have prayers, but there are a lot of churches that have worship songs which sound more like pop music than hymns and I'm not sure how biblically sound some are . Yes, I read something about the Sunday assembly for non-believers once, but I'm not really sure what to make of that. I get what you mean about charismatic leaders and they kind of give me the creeps.

What most people who knock Christian music with a contemporary sound don't get is that the old, traditional hymns were written to the popular forms of music of their times. I happen to like contemporary music in church, but you have to listen to the words, not to the beat or whatever.


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28 Aug 2015, 1:59 pm

teksla wrote:
Hello.
All of my friends are officially religious (they belong the church) but they dont believe in god (or heaven/hell)?
What is the point of being christian if you dont believe in god?
Last time i brought it up she said that she is now mad at me and i am not allowed to bring it up again (to which i replied that then she is not allowed to talk about it if she does not want me answering).
I understand people being religious but officially being religious but not believing in god? That i do not understand.
Help me try to understand


I'm Catholic and going to church is like being in HS all over again. Although many people at my church are kind and generous, there are some who feel entitled just because they are Catholic. {My mom is one of those people who feels entitled and who still won't accept the fact that I've been an usher for about 5 years now.}


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