Autism is good

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Somehow, I don't think Zappa would want to deny treatment to people that suffer, especially in the case of Down Syndrome for instance. It's just a metaphorical song.

This is similar asking for evidence in the year 1200 that the earth is round. I would not have been able to provide any evidence because there was none at the time. The conversation would have ended with me looking like an idiot for theorizing the earth is round. If you give me loads of money, maybe help finding competent reasearchers I could start doing the research. Up until now the vast majority of research has been done with the idea of attempting to find the deficits. Money usually flows when there is a real or perceived problem not when things are going well. But not always for example plenty of money flows to make good athletes better.

If you know anything about Zappa you know he was quite cycinal about mainstream attitudes and especially authority viewpoints. So while in no way would he want to be against treatments he may very well have taken a negative view towards how Down's syndrome is thought of and treated.

This just means that we don't know yet. But before we can say that autism is definitively good or bad, we have to do research on the good and bad parts of autism, using multiple autistics. Neurodiversity also needs to publicly acknowledge the possibility that a cure should be available for autism if neurodiversity doesn't work out.

That is not a fair question. CockneyRebel answered the original post question in a personal way. She said that that is what Autism does for her. She did not say that that is what Autism does for every Autistic person. She does not have to provide any evidence for that assertion. That is her personal observation about something in her personal life.

Ok, I didn't know she meant it that way (I tend to misinterpret arguments ). I thought this was only about autism as a whole, not about life experiences. I'm really sorry then CockneyRebel.

That's re-repeating nonsense, it was a church dogma.

After the 5th century BC, no Greek writer of repute thought the world was anything but round,
Bishop Isidore of Seville (560–636) taught in his widely read encyclopedia, The Etymologies, that the Earth was round.
Islamic astronomy was developed on the basis of a spherical earth inherited from Hellenistic astronomy.

One thing the Neorodiversity is starting to accomplish is research moving away from only researching the bad parts.

As for a cure I am conflicted because I am strongly for Autistics bieng allowed to choose for themselves but am greatly fearful of the consequences of a cure bieng found with the current attitudes. I do think it will be forced maybe by law but most likely financial inducements/penalties. I expect the majority attitude to be "you do not want to take the cure, that is your right, but if you choose to have this disorder we are going to triple your insurence rates ( and try in every way possible not to insure you at all) and not hire you" , I can see refusal to take a cure as bieng diagnosable trait of mental disorder.

I don't fit in with today's social environment, but with my enhanced "solitary forager" skills I'd last long in the old times.

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-autism- ... hesis.html

I think it just depends on a person's circumstance and what they're able to do/make with their lives. For me, it's been a terrible thing. If there was an option to take a pill that would "cure" my autism and make me an NT, but I would die for sure 10 years after taking it, I'd take it in a heartbeat just for a chance that those remaining 10 years would be better.

Much like virtually everything else in life, Autism has its advantages and disadvantages. If I were given the choice to be re-born with a neuro-typical's brain, I would politely decline. I believe it's important to be proud of who you are, regardless of what condition/disorder/abnormality you have that afflicts your existence.

So you made me look like an idiot in 2015. Further invalidating my point by making me look like an idiot has nothing to do with my point that you can not completly dismisses an idea as completly wrong just because no or little evidence has produced for it. Unless the Islamists or the Greeks discovered positive aspects of Autism that is (It would not surprise me if they did but the evidence has been lost or just not understood)

I think that it has given me me more resistance to peer pressure, that I have a stronger sense of right and wrong, a stronger sense of justice. It has made me less brainwashed by the media, and more of an independent thinker. I think that it has made me better at my arts and crafts due to my increased attention to details, and I am more likely to speak my mind.

Autism is good for some people; others think it's just "there"--they are neutral. Others think it sucks.

The "proof," really, is in the pudding.

There is documented evidence that autism is good for some people--one example being Temple Grandin. I'm sure she doesn't mind being autistic now (though she probably didn't care for it too much when she was younger).

It can be good when I get something tangibly good out of it, all I've gotten is a life of pain and isolation. To be born without it would to be born a different person and sure why not, nothing worth holding onto with me and its not like anybody would miss my "contribution"

I bet...if you got yourself out of the rut that you're in, that you'll discover a special talent.

Yes, I'm in a rut.....so I know what I'm talking about!