Diagnosis as "shot me paper" glued at the back

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27 Apr 2007, 1:21 pm

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Having or not having a label really doesn't make the difference; the label just quantifies what's going on. Like LostInSpace said, it's how you interact with people that makes the difference.

I don't think any label will 'turn someone cool', and I really have no desire to be 'cool' anyway. I want to get diagnosed for MYSELF, not because I want to flaunt some label. You seem to think that getting diagnosed means you have to tell everyone you come across that you're Aspie, which obviously isn't true, and it's not like getting diagnosed will really change how other people look at you and treat you, because a diagnosis doesn't change who you are. It just gives part of you an easily-identifiable identity. I would never get diagnosed for other people. I'm doing it for ME.

You might want to examine your assumptions.


I basicaly agree with what you wrote, and more than: "I don't think any label will 'turn someone cool' ", I would say that the mental illness label put by the neurologist turn people really down.

My point is exactly: " I would never get diagnosed for other people. I'm doing it for ME." that you wrote above. :lol:


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27 Apr 2007, 1:25 pm

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You are absolutely right! and I believe that medical diagnosis throughs us very far from the litle on the geek that is respectable!
Not necessarily. I see it becoming more like ADD/ADHD: overdiagnosed, stupidly overmedicated, and everyone knows it.


I didn't understand your point.
Well, as Asperger's and HFA get to be more well-known, you're apt to see an influx of perfectly normal people getting diagnosed with a disorder they just don't have. Seriously, the criteria for being an Aspie are so vague that any slightly geeky person could fit the profile. It happened with ADHD, and it's apt to happen with autism. I don't see any reason that it should be different. Nowadays, being the ADHD kid means you get to make bank selling your ritalin. Tomorrow, people will be offering cash for our SSRIs.



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27 Apr 2007, 1:35 pm

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still, i wouldn't say to just anyone i have asperger's, the persons to tell about have to be able to grasp the idea, otherwise it would only stygmatise (me or even worse my aspie-son, that's what i tell him too, don't tell it to just anyone. i told his teacher cause he has the right sensitivity and it helped solving some of the problems. my son and i don't have any difficulties with the idea of having AS ourselves, it's just a different way of being wired, certainly not a bad one.)
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Yes, this is my point!


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27 Apr 2007, 1:55 pm

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Well, as Asperger's and HFA get to be more well-known, you're apt to see an influx of perfectly normal people getting diagnosed with a disorder they just don't have. Seriously, the criteria for being an Aspie are so vague that any slightly geeky person could fit the profile. It happened with ADHD, and it's apt to happen with autism. I don't see any reason that it should be different. Nowadays, being the ADHD kid means you get to make bank selling your ritalin. Tomorrow, people will be offering cash for our SSRIs.


Yes, I agree with all this, nevertheless if you are stygmatized by a neurologist or other specialistd by a diagnosis that means nothing, you will probably suffer from it.

It is much more easy that one suffers from diagnosis than from aspergers! 8O


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27 Apr 2007, 2:10 pm

It depends on the doctor doing the diagnosis.



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27 Apr 2007, 2:41 pm

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In what planet than the wrong planet do this classmates that understand more about their child's interaction style and promote tolerance exist?

I believe children all over the world will understand mentally diagnosed children as targets!


This is a little too cynical for me, Neuromancer. I'm bowing out of this discussion. Clearly, you and I have fundamentally different views of human nature, and I don't think we're going to find any common ground. We're just talking in circles at this point. I'm sure our different views of human nature are based on our individual experiences.



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27 Apr 2007, 3:25 pm

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It depends on the doctor doing the diagnosis.


Why? 8O


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27 Apr 2007, 3:28 pm

LostInSpace wrote:
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In what planet than the wrong planet do this classmates that understand more about their child's interaction style and promote tolerance exist?

I believe children all over the world will understand mentally diagnosed children as targets!


This is a little too cynical for me, Neuromancer. I'm bowing out of this discussion. Clearly, you and I have fundamentally different views of human nature, and I don't think we're going to find any common ground. We're just talking in circles at this point. I'm sure our different views of human nature are based on our individual experiences.


8O Yes, seem we live in different planet :!:


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27 Apr 2007, 3:48 pm

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8O Yes, seem we live in different planet :!:


Ha! Well, we've come to the right place. This place, the "wrong planet", is kind of a merging of parallel universes, each with their own parallel Earth. There are auties, Aspies, NLDers, NTs, all with their own unique experiences and perceptions.