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01 May 2007, 10:03 am

i used to kick my computer when it didnt do what it promised, swearing at it was not enough. mice, keyboards, floppys all got thrown around the room. i did it at work once but had a panick attack about all my work going up in smoke (nobody saw me). eventually computers and devices will stop working if abused but swearing is ok :). i dont do it as often now though, getting a new mouse every week is not good. i would feel guily about kicking the computer though.



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01 May 2007, 10:04 am

Flake wrote:
i used to kick my computer when it didnt do what it promised, swearing at it was not enough. mice, keyboards, floppys all got thrown around the room. i did it at work once but had a panick attack about all my work going up in smoke (nobody saw me). eventually computers and devices will stop working if abused but swearing is ok :). i dont do it as often now though, getting a new mouse every week is not good. i would feel guily about kicking the computer though.

I kicked my old computer a lot. It break eventually. I also once punched a laptop which cracked the screen. I throw things a lot too. I never get violent with people though. Only when I'm on my own.



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01 May 2007, 10:04 am

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A couple of months ago someone on here mentioned shouting 'you filthy whore!' at her vaccuum cleaner, which made me ROFL! :lol:

LOL :lol:



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01 May 2007, 10:19 am

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Sally and Anne are playing. Sally has a new Marble. She puts it in her box for safekeeping and goes away for awhile. While Sally is gone, Anne takes Sallys marble, and places it in her own box. When sally comes back, where will she look for the marble?

Most ASD children, will say "in annes box". They can't place themselves in Sallies shoes, and separate the thought that Sally does not know that Anne took the marble like they know.


I don't think I ever saw a question like that until about fourth grade, but I do remember that in either kindergarten or first grade I was introduced to the concept of thinking in someone else's place, thus I was easily able to tackle critical thinking problems like that when I was finally presented with them. As it turns out (and I consider this rather unfortunate now) my IQ as a child was literally off the chart by the S/B standard that they typically used in the 80s -- which is why no doctor would even entertain my mom's suggestions that I could be autistic. But oddly enough, I could do stuff like that on paper, but seemed to fail miserably in real life situations. For example on paper I would answer the Sally/Anne question correctly because I knew that was the answer they were looking for (hence my ability to ace an IQ test). However, if I saw the same scene acted out, I would subconsciously predict that Sally would look in her own box, but yet be uncontrollably frustrated to see her not go to Anne's box, since I knew that was where the marble was. Thus it would appear from that assessment that I would have gotten the question wrong. I find this sort of thing happens to me in real situations. A lot of times I am perceived by others to not grasp a situation, because the inner battle between what I know and what I think others know takes some time to sort out. Then I get very frustrated because people (my mom is the worst about this) are always explaining things out in basic format, and thus insulting my intelligence inadvertently. It's almost a paradox, and one not easily solved.

But perhaps that same subconscious battle that I mentioned there is the same one that causes the feelings toward objects and people alike. It's like you always have to use your conscious reasoning ability to correct the impulses of your subconscious mind -- or vice versa.

Wow, 8O no wonder NTs don't understand me....



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01 May 2007, 10:26 am

I still feel more sympathy for London's Routemasters, than I feel for people and it's almost been a year and a half. :cry:

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01 May 2007, 11:18 am

I do have that.
There is even a group of people who feel sexual love for objects,
objektoplilia
objectophilia. That's falling in love with things, rather than people, and apparently 'things' includes pets.

Volkmar Sigusch, a sex psychologist and researcher, sees this objectophilia as part of a trend he calls neo-sexuality which also takes in the newly 'asexual'. The story from Deutsche Welle describes people falling in love with their pets, and one woman who was 'enraptured' with a ferry.



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01 May 2007, 11:21 am

I don't think it's right to class objects and non-human animals in the same category.
Didn't someone in Germany try to marry her dog?



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01 May 2007, 11:28 am

well, there is asexuality, and a whole other stuff, I could not find info in english, guess its a german thing



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01 May 2007, 11:43 am

I still talk to things...mostly out of frustration now though...

the truck... "you aren't going to break down on me today are you?"..."don't overheat right now."..."please start, please start, please start."

the mower..."the scrap yard is just up the road...don't make me pick up that phone."..."I have tools...don't make me use them."

When I was little I remember crying for days when my dad traded in our old car. 8O


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01 May 2007, 12:22 pm

This can come in handy if you are the parent. I told my son not to eat in on his new carpet because he could hurt the carpet's fibers, which are like it's soul. I hope this wasn't mean.



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01 May 2007, 12:23 pm

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This can come in handy if you are the parent. I told my son not to eat in on his new carpet because he could hurt the carpet's fibers, which are like it's soul. I hope this wasn't mean.


Brilliance.



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01 May 2007, 12:26 pm

Sopho_Soph wrote:
scrulie wrote:
A couple of months ago someone on here mentioned shouting 'you filthy whore!' at her vaccuum cleaner, which made me ROFL! :lol:

LOL :lol:


I call my GPS all sorts of awful names when I'm lost. I also tell it "I hate your stupid electronics guts! I will DESTROY you!"



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01 May 2007, 12:39 pm

LostInSpace wrote:
Sopho_Soph wrote:
scrulie wrote:
A couple of months ago someone on here mentioned shouting 'you filthy whore!' at her vaccuum cleaner, which made me ROFL! :lol:

LOL :lol:


I call my GPS all sorts of awful names when I'm lost. I also tell it "I hate your stupid electronics guts! I will DESTROY you!"


Awe be kind to the technologies, we love you.



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01 May 2007, 12:42 pm

Don't think Ive ever really cared about an object.. not even a sentimental attachment.

But then again I feel the same way about people.



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01 May 2007, 12:50 pm

People used to tell me that I was a phycopath or somethign because I could fell emphaty for animals and objects but not for people.



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01 May 2007, 1:20 pm

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For example, I saw a post online once where a lady in my community due to custody hearings with her sons kids was not able to get things they needed for school. It was the night before school, and she had nothing, not food, nor clothes to send them off with. The custody hearing had taken up all her extra $$, and even most of her grocery money. I felt bad for her and her kids, and gathered up a bunch of second hand clothes my son had grown out of, (good stuff, just too small for him) I raided my own cupboards, and had my husband drive us 1/2 an hour away to her house to drop it all off. I think this is a good example of my symathy and compassion.

But if my kids are screaming, or I get a gift and I have to show appreciation, or if someone has really bad news and needs to be "comforted". I often just clam up and don't know what to do. sometimes this goes a step further where I get so emotionally detached, I actually want to "flee" or become angry at the individual, dispite the fact they really need me at the moment. I know it is wrong, but I just cannot emotionally give what the person needs. Although with my kids, I have been known to "fake it" when I have no other choice.


I can understand that...paradox, or whatever it would be called. To me, I think the latter stuff is really just social stuff that maybe we can't always relate to, while the former shows TRUE sympathy and compassion.

I think that relates to the AS trait of caring about social justice issues, while simultaneously not necessarily relating to individual stuff...I'm not saying that right and probably don't make sense.

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When we were still married, my ex would yell at me for being sad. In general, I think women want men to be tough-as-nails, except toward them, and not be soft emotional creatures inside. I understand that, but I wonder, does the following thought run through most womens' heads when their partners are very sad?: "You're pathetic." I mean, even when their wives/girlfriends are sympathetic on the outside, do they internally look down on their men for feeling sad? Are guys allowed to be sad?


I do wonder about that. I'm a weird combination of sometimes being rigid and "cold" about following whatever I imagine is "correct", but also I'm...not at all tough as nails inside, to put it mildly. Honestly I sometimes think I'm dog-like...and maybe that's why dog's always seem to trust me...?

KalahariMeerkat wrote:
People used to tell me that I was a phycopath or somethign because I could fell emphaty for animals and objects but not for people.


That's terrible! I think an actual psychopath is someone who wants to hurt someone.

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Flake wrote:
i used to kick my computer when it didnt do what it promised, swearing at it was not enough. mice, keyboards, floppys all got thrown around the room. i did it at work once but had a panick attack about all my work going up in smoke (nobody saw me). eventually computers and devices will stop working if abused but swearing is ok :). i dont do it as often now though, getting a new mouse every week is not good. i would feel guily about kicking the computer though.

I kicked my old computer a lot. It break eventually. I also once punched a laptop which cracked the screen. I throw things a lot too. I never get violent with people though. Only when I'm on my own.


I hardly ever throw things (and never to hurt people), but sometimes I do when I'm SUPER SUPER SUPER freaked out. It's always after I've been pacing, almost hyperventalating, etc., and usually culminates with my like throwing my phone or something. Honestly it helps some. I obviously still know what I'm doing somewhat, because I never do it with something I care about or don't want to lose, and I do it so nothing else is hurt. It's like I need the release. Thankfully under normal circumstances I never do that (but did throw my phone during being totally freaked out about the changes at work last week, and have in regards to some other super-stressful stuff.)