Diagnosed with autism (Aspergers) despite not having it

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28 Jan 2017, 10:22 am

It's not "race" that could make the difference, it's "culture."

There is much "social expectation" within African-American and Caribbean cultures.....but being "black," in and of itself, has nothing to do with it.

A white person growing up in the above-mentioned cultures would possess the same characteristics. They would grow up with the same social expectations.



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28 Jan 2017, 10:57 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's not "race" that could make the difference, it's "culture."

There is much "social expectation" within African-American and Caribbean cultures.....but being "black," in and of itself, has nothing to do with it.

A white person growing up in the above-mentioned cultures would possess the same characteristics. They would grow up with the same social expectations.


So in essence , if you were male and grew up in an all female family and were treated like all the females in the family your autism could be of a feminine nature ? or am I getting this wrong


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28 Jan 2017, 11:00 am

I believe this could happen. Yes.



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28 Jan 2017, 11:05 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe this could happen. Yes.


That's interesting , do you think it's also possible if your Trans.


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28 Jan 2017, 11:07 am

Yep.



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28 Jan 2017, 11:10 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yep.


every days a school day , cheers Kraftie :)


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28 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

It's not merely about sex/gender. Social expectations enter into it, too.....especially in something like Asperger's.

Social and cultural expectations.



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28 Jan 2017, 11:42 am

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Well I'm female but there are female autistic girls that can't relate to girl autism and some think there is no such thing as girl autism and there is just many misinformation about it.


I wonder if it is possible for a male to have female autism?



Maybe, I don't see how it's impossible. BTW it was shown that females have the same symptoms as boys do with autism but they just show them differently. But yet I have read that have better social skills, copy them, do better with reading body language and facial expressions, mimic people. Girl autism can also have extreme sensory issues and above normal hearing which is common with autism.


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28 Jan 2017, 11:46 am

SocOfAutism wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
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Well I'm female but there are female autistic girls that can't relate to girl autism and some think there is no such thing as girl autism and there is just many misinformation about it.


I wonder if it is possible for a male to have female autism?


You know who else I think fits the "female autism" category? Although I hate to call it "female autism". Autistics of color. Specifically black autistics. There is much less written about this, so it's hard to be educated on this topic. I think that there are heavier social expectations in non-white communities, so autistic people in those communities have a double dose of social skill training as compared to whites. They may pass easier, but also experience more stress and identity confusion.



I read somewhere that less black kids are diagnosed with autism and instead they are labeled as having behavior because of their skin color. I also read that black kids get suspended more than white kids. Like if a black child gets upset and pushes another kid, they get suspended while a white kid might only lose recess for the same behavior.

I wasn't black and I'm white but I was treated like I was black by my elementary school because they saw me as a behavior and kids in my 6th grade class can throw things and get out of their seats and no one would bat an eye but if I fell asleep in class or even read a book while the student teacher is teaching, oh no behavior problem I have. :roll:


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28 Jan 2017, 12:20 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's not "race" that could make the difference, it's "culture."

There is much "social expectation" within African-American and Caribbean cultures.....but being "black," in and of itself, has nothing to do with it.

A white person growing up in the above-mentioned cultures would possess the same characteristics. They would grow up with the same social expectations.


That actually makes a lot of sense. I've noticed huge cultural differences when it comes to how social skills are taught. I've seen parents from various Eastern European countries teach social skills to their kids in a way that would be much more understandable to an autistic child than the learning by copying style that is more usual in my country. My husband insists that my entire country is autistic, and that I shouldn't worry about my lack of social skills, because nobody else has got them, according to him. Which is slightly funny and slightly offensive, but I see why he thinks that. There is a general inability to communicate coupled with blaming everyone else for one's inability to connect and communicate - it's always someone else's fault.

That's why I think the fuzzy end of the spectrum is very dependent on environment, culture and life experiences. I realize that this is anathema to autistics who would like it to be black and white - I don't even know if that is a pun.

@SaveFerris: BAP is not a diagnosis because the logical conclusion to it would be to turn everything into pathology - every character trait as a medical diagnosis.


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