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19 Mar 2017, 9:03 pm

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I've been doing market research and trying to better understand people with autism. From people I've spoken to so far, Autism is experienced differently by most people and it's super hard to draw generalizations.
Do those of you with autism view yourself as a point on a spectrum compared to NT's? or do you take offense to a question like that being asked?



What do you mean market research? Marketing what?



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19 Mar 2017, 9:15 pm

The ability to perceive truth where everybody else ignores the Pink Elephant, refuses to see that The Emperor Wears No Clothes, etc., are NOT «Delusions» just because it goes against Conformist-Beliefs.

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I DO take offense to being called Mentally Ill, considering that I have invested a hell of a lot more time into research/studying things than the average 100 sheeple combined, plus the fact that my IQ now well-exceeds 140 in addition to my being multi-lingual.


Are you under the impression that being mentally ill involves a low IQ? I have depression and anxiety and so am mentally ill, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with my IQ level.


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19 Mar 2017, 9:27 pm

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how the hell would i know?
autism is different for everyone except for a few core characteristics.

i can not feel emotion. except when something really big happens like if my cat dies.

but even then, i am not sure if it is emotion that i feel.

i feel as if i am authorized to be completely clueless as to how to act in society, and i act as i please, and whether there are raised eyebrows or knowing smiles, i do not care.


Typically people don't feel emotion until spurned on by something. What would you say you should be feeling?



nothing. i don't feel stuff. it's all just intangible rubbish.
I want you to imagine this. Imagine someone close to you is crying and in complete tears. How would you feel then?

These are the questions which have to be asked.



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19 Mar 2017, 10:17 pm

I don't think a sum on a linear scale gives much of a definition of an ASD case. Each of the possible symptoms seems to arise independently, not in a consistent pattern, and each is best described on a different chart. For a quick introduction, I say "You've heard of people 'having a screw loose', havn't you? Well, imagine that there's a set of dozens of screws that control Autism. If most of them are loose, you can barely talk or function, just sit and rock. If only a few are loose, your brain can work around them, but you still have to deal with the various benefits and handicaps that the eccentric circuitry produces."
Of course, given an inborn non-conformity, a person then has a wide variety of reactions from others, many of them abusive even if well intentioned. These produce a further set of symptoms from psychological distress even in the normal tissue.



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19 Mar 2017, 10:52 pm

I have no idea. I may just be a social oddball.


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19 Mar 2017, 11:40 pm

If you want my tips on marketing, they are very simple. Make the best product, without hurting your employees or their environment, and chase all the money boys out of Google, so that I can find You. OTOH, if I see an ad, I won't trust you.
When I was trying to sell a superior product, I couldn't attract the best salesmen, because what they feared most of all was hearing their peers sneer "Well, Anyone could sell That!"



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20 Mar 2017, 6:01 am

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I have to use 'scripting' to communicate with other people. Whenever I need someone's help with something, I ordinarily begin my sentence with, "I am trying to ascertain how to....". It is embarrassing because I possess no verbal flexibility at all.

I do this too. Using repeated formal phrases is a way to be clear, and I actually appreciate people who speak in this style because I can immediately understand what your intentions are. I have observed most people speak in this way to some degree - just using idiosyncratic turns of phrase. So you shouldn't be embarrassed - everyone does this in their manner of speech to some extent and you never know, someone like me may actually appreciate the cliffnote.
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I think it's more a matter of cognitive processing impairments rather than intellect though. People who know me online tell me I am very intelligent. But when put to the test in real life I struggle greatly with simple things that come naturally easy for most.

Same here. I've been told this is due to the inconsistency of autism. I have been told I have a high IQ, but a very low functional ability. Which means I can understand perfectly well and it seems ridiculously simple, but once I go to try and do whatever it is, my brain cannot process. Which is extremely frustrating. Whatever I'm trying to do may be incredibly simple to understand, but impossible to actually do.


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20 Mar 2017, 6:45 am

Yes exactly. Its like my mom could ask me to walk to the nearby convenience store to get a quart of milk. I could even write a detailed story about doing this. But in actuality I would most likely get lost and or step out into traffic and get run over or whatever, it wouldn't go right at all. And this sort of thing is enormously frustrating.



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20 Mar 2017, 6:48 am

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I have been told I have a high IQ, but a very low functional ability.


I too have had pdocs say I have high intelligence. Applying it in real life,practical,situations is another matter.


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20 Mar 2017, 12:57 pm

pretentious wrote:
I've been doing market research and trying to better understand people with autism. From people I've spoken to so far, Autism is experienced differently by most people and it's super hard to draw generalizations.
Do those of you with autism view yourself as a point on a spectrum compared to NT's? or do you take offense to a question like that being asked?


You are autistic... or you are not. While it is a spectrum, and this spectrum functions, it is a measure of the effects of autistic spectrum disorders. And even someone who is profoundly effected by an autistic spectrum disorder may not be "very autistic" at all...


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20 Mar 2017, 1:03 pm

In a scale of 1-10, I'd say that I'm a 3. I celebrate that 3 in every way that I can find to do so.


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20 Mar 2017, 1:12 pm

On a scale of 1 to 10, I am a 3.1416.



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20 Mar 2017, 1:51 pm

A little less autistic than you: 3.14159



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20 Mar 2017, 1:52 pm

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I have no idea. I may just be a social oddball.


Your not alone there. If I do have autism it would be a very very low number as I don't think it affects my life dramatically , the comorbids are the problem.


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20 Mar 2017, 9:44 pm

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And even someone who is profoundly effected by an autistic spectrum disorder may not be "very autistic" at all...


Which doesn't seem to make any sense, which is typical of the autism enigma.



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21 Mar 2017, 12:32 am

Shahunshah wrote:
b9 wrote:
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how the hell would i know?
autism is different for everyone except for a few core characteristics.

i can not feel emotion. except when something really big happens like if my cat dies.

but even then, i am not sure if it is emotion that i feel.

i feel as if i am authorized to be completely clueless as to how to act in society, and i act as i please, and whether there are raised eyebrows or knowing smiles, i do not care.


Typically people don't feel emotion until spurned on by something. What would you say you should be feeling?



nothing. i don't feel stuff. it's all just intangible rubbish.
I want you to imagine this. Imagine someone close to you is crying and in complete tears. How would you feel then?


well if someone close to me is crying, i obviously do not want to see them in their mysterious agony, but there is nothing i can do to make it better for them except to refer them to someone who may be able to help them.

people do not look to me for succor, because if they know me well, then they know i have no brain cells alive in that area.

i do not have empathy but i do have sympathy, and even if i do not understand the gravity of what they are feeling, i would like to give them a lift to their other friend's houses so they can take on the job of solace.

most of the time that people are grizzling over something, i see it as trivial ( the subject of their despair) but i have learned over the years not to devalue their feelings.

like my girlfriend rings up crying about how her mother is displeased with something she did, and i think "who gives a s**t? why care? just do as you please as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with others, and whatever their attitude to it is, let it fester in their heads only"