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12 Apr 2017, 8:44 am

It is very common for successful people to feel like fakes, but that may be from the regular use of betrayal to get ahead.
People with Dunning-Kruger syndrome can't understand basic concepts, but they are unaware of their problem. They think their minds must have grown to full maturity just because their bodies can reproduce.
If you have two or more conditions, even a genius diagnostician will have a very hard time divining which they are. Anyone with a decent checklist should have been able to spot my ASD from my early history, but then it got mixed with PTSD.



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12 Apr 2017, 9:29 am

Dear_one wrote:
It is very common for successful people to feel like fakes, but that may be from the regular use of betrayal to get ahead.
People with Dunning-Kruger syndrome can't understand basic concepts, but they are unaware of their problem. They think their minds must have grown to full maturity just because their bodies can reproduce.
If you have two or more conditions, even a genius diagnostician will have a very hard time divining which they are. Anyone with a decent checklist should have been able to spot my ASD from my early history, but then it got mixed with PTSD.


Why do I feel dumb? Why can't I so basic problem solving?! It's like I'm too dumb to function normally,but just smart enough to realise the crappy situation I'm in.

Aspergers don't possess learning difficulties,I read?

This sucks.



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12 Apr 2017, 9:47 am

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Why do I feel dumb? Why can't I so basic problem solving?! It's like I'm too dumb to function normally,but just smart enough to realise the crappy situation I'm in.

Aspergers don't possess learning difficulties,I read?

This sucks.

Aspies can have learning disabilities or any other condition as well. Various things that have made me feel stupid have been lack of practice, or difficulty getting started. I was a slow reader until the day I got embarrassed because I was reading aloud in class, and tried to use a soft "c" on "can." After a day or so of practice, I stayed ahead of the class after that.
I often feel clueless when starting a problem, but answers come with time. You may just always get distracted by modern life before you can learn. I also go stupid when over-tired, under-hydrated, not eating healthy food and exercising, and when parts of my short-term memory are looping on imponderable people problems. Are there areas where you have previously or now do excel?



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12 Apr 2017, 10:12 am

Dear_one wrote:
Tom1992 wrote:
Why do I feel dumb? Why can't I so basic problem solving?! It's like I'm too dumb to function normally,but just smart enough to realise the crappy situation I'm in.

Aspergers don't possess learning difficulties,I read?

This sucks.

Aspies can have learning disabilities or any other condition as well. Various things that have made me feel stupid have been lack of practice, or difficulty getting started. I was a slow reader until the day I got embarrassed because I was reading aloud in class, and tried to use a soft "c" on "can." After a day or so of practice, I stayed ahead of the class after that.
I often feel clueless when starting a problem, but answers come with time. You may just always get distracted by modern life before you can learn. I also go stupid when over-tired, under-hydrated, not eating healthy food and exercising, and when parts of my short-term memory are looping on imponderable people problems. Are there areas where you have previously or now do excel?


In my not so humble opinion,I have an amazing 'internal' capacity. My thoughts,if only people could read them,are quite insightful. I can memorise data.

When somebody is giving me verbal instructions the S pretty much hits the fan. I also have troubling reading double negatives :/ - cannot,will not,etc.

Oy vey.



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Dear_one wrote:
Tom1992 wrote:
Why do I feel dumb? Why can't I so basic problem solving?! It's like I'm too dumb to function normally,but just smart enough to realise the crappy situation I'm in.

Aspergers don't possess learning difficulties,I read?

This sucks.

Aspies can have learning disabilities or any other condition as well. Various things that have made me feel stupid have been lack of practice, or difficulty getting started. I was a slow reader until the day I got embarrassed because I was reading aloud in class, and tried to use a soft "c" on "can." After a day or so of practice, I stayed ahead of the class after that.
I often feel clueless when starting a problem, but answers come with time. You may just always get distracted by modern life before you can learn. I also go stupid when over-tired, under-hydrated, not eating healthy food and exercising, and when parts of my short-term memory are looping on imponderable people problems. Are there areas where you have previously or now do excel?


In my not so humble opinion,I have an amazing 'internal' capacity. My thoughts,if only people could read them,are quite insightful. I can memorise data. I score very high on general knowledge.

When somebody is giving me verbal instructions the S pretty much hits the fan. I also have troubling reading double negatives :/ - cannot,will not,etc.

Oy vey.



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12 Apr 2017, 10:20 am

I learn better from books than people. Aspies generally are weak in the mirror neurons. Verbal instructions can start all sorts of other circuits going, trying to consciously understand social relations that NTs process subconsciously. My counsellor and I were recently mutually amazed to learn that for me "Theory of Mind" has always been a conscious process, and an automatic one for her. However, I have occasionally taught and done well, because I know to start at the real beginning and tie things together.



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12 Apr 2017, 12:07 pm

Robert Persig has some great advice on the process of getting un-stuck in his first book, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." I highly recommend them both.



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12 Apr 2017, 1:15 pm

Dear_one wrote:
Dunning-Kruger syndrome


I'm pretty sure that's not a thing. The Dunning-Kruger effect is just an expression of cognitive bias wherein low-capacity people assess themselves to be average or above, while high-capacity people (also mistakenly) assess others to be about as capable as themselves. Don't think it's its own diagnosis.


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12 Apr 2017, 1:44 pm

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Dear_one wrote:
Dunning-Kruger syndrome


I'm pretty sure that's not a thing. The Dunning-Kruger effect is just an expression of cognitive bias wherein low-capacity people assess themselves to be average or above, while high-capacity people (also mistakenly) assess others to be about as capable as themselves. Don't think it's its own diagnosis.


No, it is also the principle that the skills needed to do a good job are most of the same set that allows accurate evaluation of the work. Almost every large committee will include at least one person with no clue about what is going on, yet is quite oblivious to the inanity of their remarks. They will take points of style as proofs, and get all their facts scrambled.



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13 Apr 2017, 2:26 pm

I've noticed today that my conversations with other people do tend to lack a certain flow. It's like I'm puzzled as to what to say next. More like a blockage.

Seem familiar?



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13 Apr 2017, 3:45 pm

Tom1992 wrote:
I've noticed today that my conversations with other people do tend to lack a certain flow. It's like I'm puzzled as to what to say next. More like a blockage.

Seem familiar?


That could be a sign that you do your Theory of Mind work consciously instead of subconsciously. Or maybe you just have nothing in common. If you want to keep a conversation going, just ask someone about themselves nicely. The odd thing is that after doing a brain dump, they will feel as if they know you better.



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13 Apr 2017, 4:25 pm

I'm not on the spectrum! I took the AQ test and received a score of 29. (To be on the scale,you must score 32 and above)

I'll cancel the appointment,and look elsewhere.



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13 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm

Firstly, you are asking other people whether you have low self esteem.



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13 Apr 2017, 6:40 pm

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I'm not on the spectrum! I took the AQ test and received a score of 29. (To be on the scale,you must score 32 and above)
I'll cancel the appointment,and look elsewhere.

The AQ isn't super accurate I would recommend a longer test the Aspie Quiz it's long and scores out of 200 or the RAADS-R



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14 Apr 2017, 1:22 am

sunshinescj wrote:
Tom1992 wrote:
I'm not on the spectrum! I took the AQ test and received a score of 29. (To be on the scale,you must score 32 and above)
I'll cancel the appointment,and look elsewhere.

The AQ isn't super accurate I would recommend a longer test the Aspie Quiz it's long and scores out of 200 or the RAADS-R

The "Aspie Quiz" isn't even good enough to be used as a screening tool. It's just a personality quiz.



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14 Apr 2017, 1:24 am

Tom1992 wrote:
I'm not on the spectrum! I took the AQ test and received a score of 29. (To be on the scale,you must score 32 and above)

I'll cancel the appointment,and look elsewhere.

From scoring just below the threshold misusing a screening tool? At least in the appointment they can properly screen you.