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26 Jul 2017, 3:10 pm

I was one of those kids.

My mother was a raging b***h at times---but she never wanted to kill me.



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26 Jul 2017, 3:13 pm

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People think it's evil because their goal(or the way it is or was advertised) was to "cure" autism. I don't like the idea as I love myself the way I am and there is also no way to really cure it (maybe besides a brain transplant).

Do I think the organization is evil? No I do not, I just think they may be misguided. I'm not totally against a so called "cure" I just think it would be better used for those that have autism that is so severe that they just cannot function at all.

I know it's a sad fact but, autism can ruin a family if it is just too severe for said family to handle or the parents just don't know how to take care of the child (if it's the latter I think they should try adoption or therapy first and use the cure as a last resort!)

I can see why they could want a cure. For example, say you had a child and the child was screaming for no reason and banging his/her head against the wall (extreme I know... it does happen though) you went to therapy and it didn't work, you tried medication and that didn't work (heck medication doesn't even work on stable adults sometimes!) what are you going to do? You hate to see your child in so much misery and have no idea what to do! That senario might be a time to have a "cure".

I know some people might hate me for saying that but sometimes you have to look at both sides of a battle to get a solution.

As for the weakness thing. I don't think it's such a thing as something or someone having no weakness. I believe nature has a balance for everything and it includes strengths and weaknesses. Just think if a tyrannical person had alot of strengths and no weaknesses... it would be pretty hard to take that person down! So I'm thankful for weaknesses as it also helps motivate you to also try and overcome them (I would eventually get bored if I was good at many things but had nothing to overcome, nothing to challenge me...)

Well, that was my dime and 3 quarters!


Ever encounter NT parents of low functioning Autistic children? I have. I get nasty looks for saying that they shouldn't be allowed to kill their kids. I don't mean that as hyperbolie, that's really what they want. I hope a genetic test for autism is never developed, because abortion would become a favored means of murdering us.


Same here. I know some people suffer from autism, but does that mean they should be murdered? How do you think they would "cure" autism? Would there be some magical medication that would "cure" the way their brain works over night? No. The reason I hate Autism Speaks is because they want to get rid of autism permanently. If they were to find a cure for autism, that "low-functioning" child would never be born. They wouldn't exist. Is that better than having a child with special needs? What kind of parent would rather kill their child than their child need extra help? If you aren't prepared to have a child with a disability, you shouldn't be having children. Every autistic, regardless of "functioning level" deserves a voice in the autism community. That includes the most severe case up to the most mildest case. I realize and acknowledge that autism can take a huge toll on the person who has it and their family. I get it. I don't want those kids murdered, though. They deserve to live and not be aborted.


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26 Jul 2017, 3:16 pm

If raising a "low-functioning" kid, it can get frustrating for the parents.

I've seen many parents with nonverbal autistic kids. By and large, they love them so much even though they're frustrated. These kids, sometimes, are the "apple of their eye," and they "teach so much."

People should read the blogs of parents with kids with serious disabilities. You'll learn a lot.



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26 Jul 2017, 3:21 pm

A program that admonishes a eugenics program, not a single autistic spectrum individual on the board while they claim to speak with us, they routinely humiliate, degrade and attack spectrum individuals who speak out against them, a lack of transparency in their use of funds, and no money seems to go autism.

They make it CLEAR that they would rather see us dead, than autistic.

They tell the world, we speak for autism, and then tell autistics to shut up...

Oh... and there's s**t like this in their OFFICIAL documentary...


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26 Jul 2017, 3:23 pm

I also wrote about this HERE


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26 Jul 2017, 3:24 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If raising a "low-functioning" kid, it can get frustrating for the parents.

I've seen many parents with nonverbal autistic kids. By and large, they love them so much even though they're frustrated. These kids, sometimes, are the "apple of their eye," and they "teach so much."

People should read the blogs of parents with kids with serious disabilities. You'll learn a lot.


I understand how it can be frustrating for those parents. I've seen some horrible things on Reddit about people hating their autistic child and wishing they were dead. I just don't want the child to die. It's sad :( . I know there are a lot of supportive and decent parents out there. But I feel like some of them shouldn't have had a child if they didn't want the kid to have a disability.


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26 Jul 2017, 3:26 pm

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A program that admonishes a eugenics program, not a single autistic spectrum individual on the board while they claim to speak with us, they routinely humiliate, degrade and attack spectrum individuals who speak out against them, a lack of transparency in their use of funds, and no money seems to go autism.

They make it CLEAR that they would rather see us dead, than autistic.

They tell the world, we speak for autism, and then tell autistics to shut up...

Oh... and there's s**t like this in their OFFICIAL documentary...


I've seen that video. It's horrific. Don't forget about "I Am Autism" :evil: . I really don't like that organization.


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26 Jul 2017, 3:28 pm

1 in a million is still much too much.

But that's about the incidence of parents killing their severely autistic children.

It happens. But it's extremely rare.

Even 1 is way too many!

But it's not like it's a common thing.



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26 Jul 2017, 3:32 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
1 in a million is still much too much.

But that's about the incidence of parents killing their severely autistic children.

It happens. But it's extremely rare.

Even 1 is way too many!

But it's not like it's a common thing.


I'm betting its because in many cases they simply cant figure a way to do it and not get caught. They would be prime suspects most likely if the kid had an "accident".



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26 Jul 2017, 3:33 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
1 in a million is still much too much.

But that's about the incidence of parents killing their severely autistic children.

It happens. But it's extremely rare.

Even 1 is way too many!

But it's not like it's a common thing.


It's rare until they find a cure (which will hopefully never happen). I'm arguing again; sorry kraftie :D . Can you tell I feel strongly about this topic?


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26 Jul 2017, 5:02 pm

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OP are you one of those people who believe that scientists will eventually be able to "fix" almost anything? I've come across people who believe that science will one day prevent human death, allow us to live forever, alter human neurology however we want to, and completely remake the Earth's ecosystems and replace what nature has done with something that is artificial yet somehow better. You remind of those people.

What you are proposing is unrealistic. People can't simply be engineered into whatever we want.

What is or is not a weakness is somewhat subjective, so you'd have to get people to agree on the "weaknesses" of autism before anyone could agree on what should be eliminated. That's basically the issue with Autism Speaks—some people don't agree with their negative views about autism.


Yes, I am one of those people actually. When you see what amazing things science has achieved over the course of human history, it becomes plausible that we could one day bypass death. We've already significantly extended people's life expectancies and annihilated several diseases, so being able to alter the brain wiring as we see fit should be feasible in the future.

The question I always ask people opposed to this mentality is: "Why SHOULDN'T we be eliminating these problems?"



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26 Jul 2017, 5:04 pm

I just don't see a "cure" happening. Autism is not like cancer or other diseases. There are many causes---none of which is a virus or bacterium.

It's not like you can get an antibiotic shot--and, wham-o, it's gone!



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26 Jul 2017, 5:06 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I just don't see a "cure" happening. Autism is not like cancer or other diseases. There are many causes---none of which is a virus or bacterium.

It's not like you can get an antibiotic shot--and, wham-o, it's gone!


You are correct that ASDs are far more complex in nature, given their neurological origin, but claiming a problem is too complex to solve is an excuse that halts progress. The greatest scientific minds did not let the daunting nature of a challenge stop them. They pushed onwards and ultimately annihilated the problem with their outside-the-box thinking and aptitude for scientific knowledge. We have to continue trying to annihilate problems before we ultimately annihilate them.



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26 Jul 2017, 5:11 pm

There is no "cure." But it's possible for many people with autism to improve dramatically.



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26 Jul 2017, 5:14 pm

There is no cure "currently". But if science continues to innovate, we could have one and we will be able to annihilate the condition as well as every other mental health condition on earth, as well as every other physical condition on earth.



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26 Jul 2017, 5:17 pm

I don't believe it's just one "condition," actually. I believe there could possibly be many "autisms."

You might be able to "cure" one---but how about the others?