Should Anti-Vaxxers be Arrested?

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That's the very case that could be used against vaccines. Vaccines do have a chance to cause adverse reactions, no matter how minute it is. In the case of MMR, this is less than one in a million, it is very safe, so if you want to make that one required, all right, I could see that. Let's look at the Meningitis vaccine though:

Approximately 600-1000 people contract Meningitis in the US every year. That makes your chance of contracting Meningitis approximately .0002 percent in any given year. Of everyone who get this disease, 10-15 percent die. 15 percent of .0002 percent is .00003 percent. Another 20 percent of this original .0002 percent live with permanent injury for the rest of their lives, so adding them to this total percentage is .00007 . Compare this to the chances of experiencing a life-threatening adverse event, the chances for developing severe anorexia are .2 percent in children ages 11-18, and .4 percent in adults 18-55. That's only looking at one symptom. there are others as well.

My source is the CDC, and RXlist.com for the numbers on adverse events for Menomune, just one such meningitis vaccine. Not to mention that they're not even completely effective. In this case, it would seem there's a higher chance of experiencing an adverse reaction from the vaccine than actually catching the disease, so I'm going to politely decline, thank you very much.

BTW, treating a 1 percent chance like a 100 percent chance doesn't fly in the scientific community. If that's the case, we need to assume that adverse reactions, including the deadly ones, are a 100 percent reality, which means you're forcibly exposing EVERYONE to harm by forced vaccination.

Edit: I looked up that quote, sounds a lot like this one:

"If there’s a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response." - Dick Cheney.

The thing is that the adverse reactions from vaccines are usually much more treatable than the adverse reactions from an illness like that one. What we should be doing is perfecting vaccines so that we can make them 100% harmless and annihilate every disease off the face of the planet. Humans should be moving toward the utter extermination of all microbes that cause harm.

Yep...we should be seeking to continually reduce, and hopefully eliminate, side effects from vaccines.

That all depends on the adverse reaction. Some adverse reactions are fatal. Many are debilitating. Some are permanent, I've seen it first-hand. A friend of the family was permanently mentally afflicted due to an adverse reaction to a vaccine. That doesn't mean I'm anti-vaccine. I'm merely pro-choice.

Annihilation of all microbes that cause harm is a noble goal, but virtually impossible. I'm right there with you, I hate these diseases as much as you do, but it's just not a realistic goal. It's certainly not worth sacrificing human freedom and liberty over. Maybe we'll get there someday. I think I'll leave it at that.

Freedom to indirectly murder others is never a freedom that should be allowed.

Refusing a vaccine is not murder. If a person would to weaponize a deadly illness against another, then THAT would be murder, but this is not something that the vast majority of unvaccinated people do. Ergo, no murder, indirect or otherwise.

If we are to extrapolate your definition then, it would seem that you would define coming to work with a cold as assault?

If we mean an ultimately harmless assault that leaves no long lasting consequences, then yes, coming to work with a cold is an assault, since it leaves the victim in excruciating pain for a short amount of time that eventually fully heals, but causes a delay in productivity that could have been prevented.

Even though the common cold is ultimately harmless, it's one of the many illnesses that must be ultimately exterminated. Since it's derived from many different viruses, this will undoubtedly be more challenging, but we must continue our destiny of annihilation of all harmful viruses.

All rightie then. I would love to put you into a lab working on these diseases, as your veracity for their elimination would be a great benefit. Do you happen to be in the sciences?

In political office... I'm sorry, I wouldn't vote for you.

Good choice. After all, ridding the world of all suffering is an unspeakable horror! How foolish of me to be so hell-bent on crushing those worthless viruses to death to help humanity! You sir have impeccable judgment!

Is that sarcasm?

No I actually enjoy possibly injuring other people by letting them choose whether or not to receive a procedure that lowers the chance of getting sick.

Ah, I'll take that as a yes to the sarcasm question.

You remind me so much of my younger self. This is actually quite close to what I imagine a conversation with my younger self would be like. It is definitely a gift to be self-aware of our shared disorder/brain configuration at a younger age. I hope that time will temper your ambitions, and open your mind. Sorry if it's a little condescending, but I've presented facts which you have met with a. Straw man fallacy, b. Appeal to emotion fallacy, and c. lack of facts.

I really wish you well in your endeavours. I assume you're in the sciences based on your strong interests that you have expressed here. Go cure stuff!

I have a Bachelor's in biochemistry BTW, so I can definitely relate to your interest. It's a wide and complex world to delve into. Have fun!