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07 Oct 2017, 6:04 pm

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He doesn't just write well, the *thinks* well. People who are considered mentally challenged don't tend to do that because well, that's sorta what makes them mentally challenged.

Oddly enough that's not how it works. Thinking and performing are different things. I can not do demanding thinking very well. I can have good thoughts and express them well. But I do not perform very well when it comes to something that is a challenge, even if it is easy for most other people.

When it comes to writing this, it has taken me over 10 minutes with several pauses. Non of that translates when someone reads it though, how slow and stuttering it is.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:05 pm

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Is it possible that we could as a sticky or as a general rule stop using offensive, nasty discriminatory language such as ret*d. It is horrible language which has no place anywhere in the 21st century let alone a place like this.

Honestly chaps, it’s not on, it has to stop. Would anyone here be happy and comfortable using the N word to discribe black people? How about using faggott to gay men or dykes for gay women? We all comfortable with that? There are lots of words for Jewish people, shall we use those too?

Alex is it possible that any post which has ret*d or whatever as it’s prefix to be instantly removed?

I don't particularly like that idea, I mean I have been insulted with the term many times in the past...but now it doesn't bother me, I looked up the actual meaning and finding out all those people who insulted me with it didn't even grasp the meaning of the word. It means slow, I mean replace ret*d with slow when people use it insultingly and their sentence won't make any sense lol.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:05 pm

I suppose that's one definition.....but, usually, it's not used in that sense of pure "slowness."

It's used to imply that a person is "behind." Is "less" than other people.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:07 pm

I think, Ezra, that you do things well which some others would find "demanding."

And, perhaps, what you find "demanding" might be easy for other people.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:08 pm

EzraS wrote:

AspieSingleDad wrote:

He doesn't just write well, the *thinks* well. People who are considered mentally challenged don't tend to do that because well, that's sorta what makes them mentally challenged.

I think of great stuff, then forget it 3 words into the sentence, then have to think of it all over again. :lol:

You're right though, I can usually think well but fail with the execution.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:12 pm

It's funny no one has ever called me a ret*d that I remember. I have over heard stuff like "what's wrong with that kid, he must be ret*d" when out in public. Maybe when you look and act so ret*d they do not bother using the word to insult you idk. In my special needs school the word is banned.

I just wonder how much of this is from those of us who are intellectually and or cognitively disabled and the PC bunch who don't have the problem themselves.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:21 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I think, Ezra, that you do things well which some others would find "demanding."

And, perhaps, what you find "demanding" might be easy for other people.

Isn't that true of everyone though?

Let me put it this way, if you had to let me live in your house for a week or two, you would quickly find out I am like a 5 year old in how much looking after I require. A special needs 5 year old that is.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:24 pm

Be that as it may, you're still not "ret*d."

At least by the "usual" definition."

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07 Oct 2017, 6:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Be that as it may, you're still not "ret*d."

At least by the "usual" definition."

What is the usual definition? I don't mean the old clinical definition. I mean how it's used these days.

Although the old clinical definition of ret*d now called intellectually disabled was applied to me until after I was 8 years old.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:33 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Forrest Gump "thought" really well, actually.

He saved a bunch of people from a fiery death in Vietnam.

He is supposed to be "mentally challenged" in some vague way.

I was inspired to run the marathon by Forrest Gump.

Well yeah, it would kind of take away from the story if he wasn't seen as mentally challenged. I mean like if they made a remake of the movie with a non-mentally challenged Forrest Gump it would be terrible.

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07 Oct 2017, 6:48 pm

Popular use = A person who appears or behaves as if they are mentally disabled, but they are not actually mentally disabled.

Makes no sense to me.

'Full ret*d' means you're actually ret*d but brilliant at the same time a.k.a Forrest Gump.

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07 Oct 2017, 7:07 pm

You can run but you can't hide. I am sick and tired of people not using literal descriptive or diagnostic terms because bullies hijacked them to make them a pejorative. We gave in to "ret*d" and now "Autistic" is becoming a popular term popular with bullies. What are we going to call Autistics, "differently social/repetitive/sensory people"?

"ret*d" is a different story, it has been pretty much an insult from the get-go.

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07 Oct 2017, 7:12 pm

I don't see person with a disability becoming an insult. If people don't like the word, why not stop using it? I'd rather use a term with equal or better descriptive ability, and no implications that will cause stereotype threat.

We have been oppressed and exploited, but the situation for people with disabilities has improved vastly more than the situation for people of color. I think comparing the worst insults for each trivializes both. Please stop that.

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07 Oct 2017, 7:30 pm

EzraS wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

AspieSingleDad wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

So, if I don't refer to myself as ret*d, what word am I going to use?
Slow?
Mentally impaired?
ret*d seems the most correct and explanatory term.

I think you're about as "ret*d" as I'm wealthy, which is to say not at all.

I'm ret*d in speech, processing, memory and movement.
This is a medical fact.
I defend the right to use the term ret*d to describe myself, although I would not use it to describe others.

It's easy to assume because someone writes well they aren't ret*d in many other areas. Black people liberally use the N word. Can anyone tell us who really are basically ret*d that we can not use the R word?

Blacks use the word “n!gger”, especially in rap as a perjorative. Even in that context, I find it demeaning and racist (especially since I’ve been called a “white n!gger” quite a few times in the past, even by both sides of the family. It’s as bad as someone calling mountain folks from Appalachia “hillbillies,” or blacks calling caucasians “crackers” or “honkies.” The only time you should use ret*d is in music, where the Italian Ritardando means to slow down.

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07 Oct 2017, 7:41 pm

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/ret*d

Worth a look.

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07 Oct 2017, 7:50 pm

My feelings would be hurt if I was called a genius.

Like if I did something stupid and someone said, "way to go genius".

When used that way genius is really offensive.

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