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goldfish21
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08 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm

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Goldfish, I am not saying you are the salesmen, but there is huge market in 'Natural' remedies, homeopathy and other nonsense. Treatments like this are easy to make and tend to be expensive. Even the smart can be taken in. Steve Jobs, for example, is reckoned to have delayed the conventional treatment of his cancer and tried 'alternative' therapies, until it was too late.


...except that I've been saying for 4+ years that the foods & supplements I take are very inexpensive and available at your local grocery store/produce place/health food store/pharmacy etc for pennies a day. I've never once suggested buying high priced (high profit) items from anyone, especially not myself since I'm selling absolutely nothing, merely reporting the success I've achieved for myself by doing these things.

So, please, do tell... how does the "snake oil salesmen," comment apply to me or my posts if I haven't offered anything for sale & haven't recommended that anyone buy any high priced cure-in-a-bottle? Instead I've recommended inexpensive teas, spices, supplements, probiotics etc that are readily available on nearly every corner. Please, do tell how this applies to me or anything I've written? I'm genuinely interested as to how you make the connection.


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08 Dec 2017, 5:40 pm

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Goldfish, I am not saying you are the salesmen, but there is huge market in 'Natural' remedies, homeopathy and other nonsense. Treatments like this are easy to make and tend to be expensive. Even the smart can be taken in. Steve Jobs, for example, is reckoned to have delayed the conventional treatment of his cancer and tried 'alternative' therapies, until it was too late.

And many, such as Ian Gawler, have gone the alternative route and still live decades later.
Conventional treatments are very hard on the body and don't suit everyone.
It's an individual choice.
You can't then say, "They should have done xyz and lived!" because how can anyone know that?


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08 Dec 2017, 5:47 pm

Raleigh wrote:
nephets wrote:
Goldfish, I am not saying you are the salesmen, but there is huge market in 'Natural' remedies, homeopathy and other nonsense. Treatments like this are easy to make and tend to be expensive. Even the smart can be taken in. Steve Jobs, for example, is reckoned to have delayed the conventional treatment of his cancer and tried 'alternative' therapies, until it was too late.

And many, such as Ian Gawler, have gone the alternative route and still live decades later.
Conventional treatments are very hard on the body and don't suit everyone.
It's an individual choice.
You can't then say, "They should have done xyz and lived!" because how can anyone know that?


This is true.

I'm glad my father has gone the conventional way to treat his cancer. It seems to be working well & while he's still eventually terminal, I think that the chemo, radiation, surgeries & scans etc will all result in him living as long and healthy a life as possible - whether that's mere months or 10+ years, time will tell, but his treatments over the last year and a half or two all seem to have been the right moves for him. (Although it wouldn't hurt him to eat even healthier than he does.)

In my instance, there was only the choice of treating myself in whatever ways I learned would help & figured out by trial and error for myself.. because there aren't any "traditional" (Western Medicine/pharmaceutical) treatment options for ASD. So, to be labelled as some sort of fringe hippy that discounts the value of pharmaceuticals and instead believes in the power of hopes and prayers and good vibes contained in veggies and tea is completely laughable. I'm 100% open to all options, and there simply were not and are not any available from the pharmaceutical industry to treat, manage, or cure ASD in any way at all. So, like others, I've taken it into my own hands and done what I have as there was simply no way that I was going to go on living like I was 5-6 years ago.


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08 Dec 2017, 5:56 pm

Raleigh wrote:
nephets wrote:
Goldfish, I am not saying you are the salesmen, but there is huge market in 'Natural' remedies, homeopathy and other nonsense. Treatments like this are easy to make and tend to be expensive. Even the smart can be taken in. Steve Jobs, for example, is reckoned to have delayed the conventional treatment of his cancer and tried 'alternative' therapies, until it was too late.

And many, such as Ian Gawler, have gone the alternative route and still live decades later.
Conventional treatments are very hard on the body and don't suit everyone.
It's an individual choice.
You can't then say, "They should have done xyz and lived!" because how can anyone know that?


Ian Gawler was a large animal vet here in aus. Contrary to what the Dept of Ag say, we have TB in cattle here. I know a Vet who worked TB testing cattle in the top end and there were plenty of positive results. We will always have Bovine TB in cattle due to the extensive nature cattle stations. Bovine TB can be contracted by humans. I mention this because one of the symptoms of Bovine TB in humans is exostosis of the long bones which can be mistaken for osteosarcoma aka bone cancer. Several oncologists believe he had exostosis not osteosarcoma but he's made a sh#t load of money out of whatever it was.


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08 Dec 2017, 7:54 pm

^ Interesting, and makes the case for second opinions.
Lest your leg be chopped off unnecessarily.


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09 Dec 2017, 3:56 am

Yep, check twice, cut once :|
He was officially diagnosed with TB several years after the leg was removed. He insists there is no correlation between the two things. I personally would be kicking myself for not getting a second opinion but it would be kind of hard to do it with one leg.


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