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22 Mar 2018, 1:56 am

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Our gang members are proper criminals.


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22 Mar 2018, 5:19 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Our gang members are proper criminals.


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"We's respectable, see?"


No, much worse. Our gang members are really bad guys.



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23 Mar 2018, 4:06 pm

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23 Mar 2018, 4:25 pm

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Are all of these men from your area or have you tried dealing with ones who are from elsewhere in the country or from entirely different countries and cultures? Maybe you'd have an easier time with dealing with men from some other culture... are you from a big city that has population from different places? Or just a small town?


I grew up in a very small town a long way away from here and now live in a town of 90,000 people. Though this town isn't that large it has year round tourists visiting because it's a seaside resort. Where I live is fairly average.

I think my issue with men seems universal. I have had this issue all over the UK. I could possibly find men from another culture easier to deal with, I'm not sure about that.


As an American, one thing that has always struck me about the U.K. is, how much bullying there is on the street compared to in the U.S. It does seem like there are a lot of guys in the U.K. with something to prove. I'm not saying that street bullying never happens in the U.S. but a lot of the things I've seen take place in the U.K. would be quite socially inappropriate and shocking by American standards. For example, we don't really have sports hooligans or gangs of middle aged working men walking around vandalizing the city and being jerks. Our gang members are proper criminals.


I think that probably depends on what part of the US you are in here in the UK that sort of behaviour tends to happen far more in welfare dependant areas.



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23 Mar 2018, 7:06 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
fifasy wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
Are all of these men from your area or have you tried dealing with ones who are from elsewhere in the country or from entirely different countries and cultures? Maybe you'd have an easier time with dealing with men from some other culture... are you from a big city that has population from different places? Or just a small town?


I grew up in a very small town a long way away from here and now live in a town of 90,000 people. Though this town isn't that large it has year round tourists visiting because it's a seaside resort. Where I live is fairly average.

I think my issue with men seems universal. I have had this issue all over the UK. I could possibly find men from another culture easier to deal with, I'm not sure about that.


As an American, one thing that has always struck me about the U.K. is, how much bullying there is on the street compared to in the U.S. It does seem like there are a lot of guys in the U.K. with something to prove. I'm not saying that street bullying never happens in the U.S. but a lot of the things I've seen take place in the U.K. would be quite socially inappropriate and shocking by American standards. For example, we don't really have sports hooligans or gangs of middle aged working men walking around vandalizing the city and being jerks. Our gang members are proper criminals.


I think that probably depends on what part of the US you are in here in the UK that sort of behaviour tends to happen far more in welfare dependant areas.


In the "hood" in the U.S. it would be an incredibly bad idea to shoulder bump or antagonize a stranger in any way. Those neighborhoods tend to have a pervasive prison culture where people believe the "right" thing to do is to not tolerate disrespect and to instead, stand your ground and fight, and even the women tend to be of this mentality. A lot of people are armed, particularly young men, and situations escalate fast and someone gets shot. Even if the person being antagonized isn't armed, if they can get a kick to the face and head in, they often will.



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23 Mar 2018, 7:08 pm

Even in "hood"-type places, most people do not subscribe to the "hood" mentality. I've lived in "projects," so I know.

They hate the "hood" mentality at least as much as "white bread suburbanites" do.



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23 Mar 2018, 7:12 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Even in "hood"-type places, most people do not subscribe to the "hood" mentality. I've lived in "projects," so I know.

They hate the "hood" mentality at least as much as "white bread suburbanites" do.


Its often said in Britain that you only need one bad family to move in and they destroy the street.



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24 Mar 2018, 2:08 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Even in "hood"-type places, most people do not subscribe to the "hood" mentality. I've lived in "projects," so I know.

They hate the "hood" mentality at least as much as "white bread suburbanites" do.

New York is pretty cosmopolitan, even in the hood.



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24 Mar 2018, 3:52 pm

Places which were pure "hood" sorts of neighborhoods in very recent times are becoming much more "cosmopolitan" by the day. This is true. But not in the projects.

In the 1970s, nobody would have called Bedford-Stuyvesant "cosmopolitan."