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Raleigh
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26 Mar 2018, 5:09 am

ElleGaunt wrote:
LaetiBlabla wrote:
I like logic and I usually point out the slightest lack of logic in any discussion/situation. (which i'd better not do sometimes...)


And this is why I love aspies. :-) :-) :-)

Do you also love the Aspies who don't agree with your POV?
Just wondering.

There are neurotypicals who love logic.
Do you love logic loving NTs too?


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26 Mar 2018, 6:00 am

ElleGaunt wrote:
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I'm wondering if you are a christian, Elle? (from your use of the word amen)
Because that got me thinking, isn't christianity kind of based on magical thinking? With all the healing by faith sort of ideas? How do you feel about those?
(I'm an atheist, by the way)


Nice try. No, I'm not. Go take your religious debates somewhere else, and try google the next time you want to be a smart alec. It's an expression, a very common expression, that means "does anyone agree?"


Ouch. Not sure what you think I was trying, I'm not into religious debates as a rule. And I know what the term means, I understood your initial post, but the word itself and Raleigh's comment started a train of thought - I was wondering how you would reconcile your viewpoint on magical thinking with religious belief, if you were religious. But you're not, so it's a moot point. I was just interested to know.

You seem quite passionate in your dislike of magical thinking. I'm OK with it, generally speaking, unless it's causing harm. It does annoy the heck out of me if important decisions are being made based on someone's idea of what life ought to be like, and not the facts. But I'd better not get into a political debate, either :twisted:



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26 Mar 2018, 6:29 am

ElleGaunt wrote:
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Well, depends what you mean by magical thinking.

Does he explain the world by magic when there are reasons to explain?


Magical thinking means superstitions. In this situation this person told me that I should believe I will pass the exam I take on Tuesday if I want to pass it. I told him point blank that there is a reasonable chance I won't because of my skill level. It's a computationally rigorous exam and unfortunately I just don't have the fundamentals mastered, yet. I'm still doing my best and I can see that I may pass it. But I may not and that's just reality. I'm ok with that. A lot of people fail it -- it has a 40% pass rate. But what I know is that if I continue to work at it eventually I will pass it.

I dislike the implication that I should believe something that defies evidence. That is the core of magical thinking.

Magical thinking would be asking fairies to help you pass the test.

"You can if you think you can" is "power of positive think" which doesn't involve supernatural stuff. It may be stomach turning, but I doubt that its quite under the rubrick of what psychologists call "magical thinking".