How does aspies live with self haterd?

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26 Jun 2018, 8:14 pm

Yep.....it's a very "grabbing" stanza.

It's like the sea "grabs" you at high tide---and the images evoked by the sea "grabs" you, too.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:19 pm

in a nutshell it describes human nature and the world that it created. the poem is a plea to the better angels of our nature, that perhaps if only we stopped and gave things more thought, that we could, in the words of Louis Armstrong, make this world "a getter."

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26 Jun 2018, 8:21 pm

Yep. Pondering the lighthouses in the background of the ink ocean creates transcendence in me.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:25 pm

can you see how it influenced ray Bradbury?

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26 Jun 2018, 8:26 pm

I'm not that knowledgeable about Ray Bradbury, unfortunately.

I've read a little bit of Fahrenheit 451-----but I haven't read the whole thing.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:31 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I'm not that knowledgeable about Ray Bradbury, unfortunately. I've read a little bit of Fahrenheit 451-----but I haven't read the whole thing.

his work is imbued with poetic imagery. i'd suggest reading Fahrenheit as well as "Something wicked this way comes" to get the full picture of this aspect of his writing. "The Martian Chronicles" [aka "The Silver Locusts" overseas] is another. all have also been made into motion pictures. all are worth watching.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:33 pm

It's great that a science fiction writer was influenced by a Victorian poet.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:39 pm

he was an exceptionally well-read man. i'm so thankful for the WWW to make all this knowledge democratic.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:57 pm

I never lived with hate. Let alone self-hatred.

I used to live with anger instead.

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26 Jun 2018, 8:58 pm

hate is like anger that has fermented a while.

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26 Jun 2018, 9:01 pm

Yeah....and it stinks just as bad!

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26 Jun 2018, 9:04 pm

i hate hate, and anger pisses me off.

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26 Jun 2018, 9:30 pm

auntblabby wrote:

hate is like anger that has fermented a while.

Or anger evaporated into fart of air instead.

That's when the concept of 'normal people' became meaningless to me, and 'normal life' no longer equates to a happy life when I can have fulfillments of my own. That's my story.

Sorry for barging in, but I do sometimes wonder when do people move on... Even the OP and his anger.

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02 Jul 2018, 6:01 pm

I don't hate myself. It is probably because I have INTJ personality traits. Actually I like myself a lot.

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09 Jul 2018, 7:45 pm

living with self hatred, for me, requires zero extra effort.

furthermore, i hate almost everyone. not just myself.

hate is not morally inferior to love.

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