We as Aspies are superior compared to NT(non AS/ASD)people

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01 Aug 2018, 3:14 am

I think the OP is the one trying to manipulate us into thinking that we're all superior and all NTs are scum and have nothing better to do than to sit around talking about how much they hate Aspies all day. No, that is not how NTs live their lives.

This thread has actually offended me, because I know very few non-NT people and so the vast majority of the people that I know are in fact NTs (my family, partner, his family, etc), and I love them all very much.

I think the OP is being very hypocritical.


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01 Aug 2018, 3:48 am

I think the concept of superior and inferior need to be analyzed with respect to context.



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01 Aug 2018, 3:51 am

Nope.


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01 Aug 2018, 7:57 am

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NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?
First you say we're superior, and then you point out an inferior quality that many of us have.

Make up your mind, please.

(Oh ... and where are those credentials I asked for?)


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01 Aug 2018, 8:05 am

Hey man, not everyone has the time to run out and get a box of crackerjacks right away.



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01 Aug 2018, 8:15 am

Humour on....

Would all the superior people please remember to put their bins out...



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01 Aug 2018, 9:55 am

Fnord wrote:
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NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?
First you say we're superior, and then you point out an inferior quality that many of us have.

Make up your mind, please.

(Oh ... and where are those credentials I asked for?)


Having poor social skills is not a inferior quality.It means we're different.Considering what we have to go through and the fact that we deal with rejection that no one else ever has to worry about.Combined with that we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people,we are more honest,we don't need relationships unlike the rest of the 99% of the population,we are more intelligent, we don't gossip,and we don't spend time socializing are what makes us superior in many ways.



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01 Aug 2018, 10:06 am

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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now.

If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs?

Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!


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01 Aug 2018, 10:07 am

rick42 wrote:
We as AS/ASD people are a far different and superior people.


I agree with different, but not superior.



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01 Aug 2018, 11:20 am

rick42 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
rick42 wrote:
NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?
First you say we're superior, and then you point out an inferior quality that many of us have.

Make up your mind, please.

(Oh ... and where are those credentials I asked for?)


Having poor social skills is not a inferior quality.It means we're different.Considering what we have to go through and the fact that we deal with rejection that no one else ever has to worry about.Combined with that we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people,we are more honest,we don't need relationships unlike the rest of the 99% of the population,we are more intelligent, we don't gossip,and we don't spend time socializing are what makes us superior in many ways.


How many other autistics have you been around to observe this? I've literally been around at least a thousand during my entire education in private schools for autistics. I've heard gossip. I've seen socializing. There have been liars and thieves. I've been teased and even assaulted.



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01 Aug 2018, 11:35 am

Why do you so arrogently keep saying "99%" when referring to NTs? You need to take a trip to a mental hospital, a care home, MENCAP groups, or any other things for people with mental challenges or mental illnesses, etc. I'm more socially-functioning than my neighbour, who is severely mentally ret*d but NOT autistic. So what makes him neurotypical just because he doesn't have an ASD label? I have a boyfriend, a job, friends, etc etc. I love my boyfriend. I enjoy socialising. I am interested in gossip at work. My mentally ret*d neighbour can never work, he requires 24-hour care (even though he can walk about), he only has friends from his special needs club he goes to, which his mum helped him get because he can't talk, and he often gets mocked in the street by people but he is unaware of it, he just thinks everybody is being nice and saying hi. If he's happy he'd flap his hands and point to whatever's making him happy. But he doesn't ever get sad, only when he hurts himself. But in his mind the world is happy, kind, simple, easy. He loves everybody, even if you are an Aspie. But he is not neurotypical. He is not "normal". He never went to mainstream school or had a girlfriend, even though he'll be 30 this year.


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01 Aug 2018, 12:07 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I believe we as Aspies are superior becasue of what we go through.We are also more logical.We are not annoying.We don't gossip. We don't ridicule other people or look down on other people.Also,we don't need to have any friendships or romantic relationships unlike the other 99% of the population, whether it's becasue we don't have the desire to or we simply just not bother anymore becasue of being rejected so much.We as AS/ASD people are a far different and superior people.


Funny thing is I've been around in direct contact with far more Aspies than NT's in my life. So my perspective of Aspies isn't as rosy. I've been teased and picked on by plenty. Ostracized by most. In school they did have cliques. There was a pecking order. Many Aspies of WP have been in romantic relationships and are married. Many married with children.

I once pissed off a lot of Aspies on WP by asking them how they could be autistic and yet have such NT-like lifestyles.

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i hate nts


I hate everyone equally.


I didn't write that. The mods deleted a whole post and replaced it with just that. I hate it when mods modify posts they don't like. They should either let the post stand or delete it, but not manipulate what people post.


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01 Aug 2018, 12:12 pm

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I had a little anti-NT bias myself at one point, but then realized that w/o NTs many of us couldn't survive. You're sounding like those radical people on twitter of the new SJW-esque neurodiversity movement, blaming NTs for everything wrong with their life and expressing no personal responsibility for anything. Neurodiversity was dead when those radicals took over. I unfollowed most of them and was blocked by many for not toeing the line. I'm done with it.

NTs are equal, no better, no worse. They have faults, we have faults. There are rude, manipulative aspies, there are rude manipulative NTs. There are judgemental NTs, there are judgemental aspies. Etc, etc, etc.


NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?


Persecution complex?

Most NTs don’t hate us. There’s lots of good people out there.

I don’t know what experiences you’ve had, but not all NTs are bad, and they’re not inferior.

Sure, there are bad people, but that’s not all people or all NTs. There are “bad” Aspies.


Not all NTs are bad. Just most of them. And the real problem is the horrible "society" of theirs.

Back in the 1960s, some African Americans wanted a separate black nation where their people would not be lynched and would have equal opportunity under the law. I think this was a good plan, given that the US at the time seemed a place where this would never happen. All most of them wanted was to be ACCEPTED into the existing society, and even today that hasn't happened for 100%.


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01 Aug 2018, 12:32 pm

Fnord wrote:
rick42 wrote:
... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now.

If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs?

Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!


Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them.

Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are.

You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.


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rick42 wrote:
... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now. If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs? Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!
Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them. Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are. You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.
Are you talking to me?


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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now. If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs? Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!
Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them. Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are. You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.
Are you talking to me?


I am agreeing with you and disagreeing with the OP.


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