Neurotypicals are Humans too
lostonearth35
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Being a human is a curse. Humans have ruined the world with their greed and stupidity. their politics and religion. Maybe not all humans are bad, but they are no match for the billions of humans that are.
I curse the very day my parents brought me into this world, even though it wasn't always as horrible as it is now. Anyone who says it isn't is a Suzy Sunshine Pollyanna with their head firmly stuck in the sand.
Yes. I know autism feels like a curse. But when we only focus on the negative things in life, we'll never find the positives. God blessed the world with autism. We should be trying to find the strengths He gave us through our autism and trying to bless the world with them.
Let me put it in an analogy:
People fear big, ugly dogs, such as Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, or Dobermanns because they aren't pretty like Huskys or small like Chihuahuas or clean like Poodles. But, despite their shortcomings, they are some of the sweetest dog breeds. People like Cesar Millan used his influence to help break the stigma around Pit Bulls that they're killing machines. He taught people that dogs are influenced by their owners, and you have to train the owner in order to rehabilitate the dog. Pit Bulls can be dangerous, but if given the proper training and attention, they can become very loyal and obedient and calm and collected and gentle, etc.
Just like Pit Bulls, Autism has a stigma around it, too. People believe sterotypical things about autism. If we want to change that, we have to show people our strengths. We have to show them that autism isn't a curse. (We especially need to teach that to ourselves) Autism comes with great attributes: honesty, empathy, outside-of-the-box thinking, genuine emotions, etc.
But people won't want to help us when we are struggling if we treat them poorly. When someone doesn't understand autism, we shouldn't criticize them. We should inform them. When someone asks for advice for an autistic peer, we shouldn't be condescending. We should step into the shoes of the autistic person and give advice from our experiences that can help.
Toren Wolf, an autistic teen on YouTube, had a video where he showed a tiny mushroom growing right after a huge storm. We should all strive to be that mushroom.
You are all doing great. Storms are always tough, (I loathe any form of lightning and thunder) but there's always an eye in the storm. Seek for it.
You all are amazing!
It's important to find a balance between optimism and realism when thinking about autism. While it's valuable to recognize the strengths and blessings that autism can bring, we also need to acknowledge and address the real challenges that come with it. This approach allows us to stay grounded in reality while maintaining a hopeful outlook.
As Ecclesiastes 7:14 reminds us: "When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider: God has made the one as well as the other." This encourages us to embrace both the positive and negative aspects of life. At the same time, Philippians 4:8 inspires us to focus on the good: "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things."
By integrating both perspectives, we can better understand and accept ourselves and others, fostering a more compassionate and effective way to navigate life.
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This would make sense if atheists and anarchists didn’t also form in-groups and out-groups. And if being anti-religion wasn’t some people’s religion. And if anarchism wasn’t a political agenda.
Saying, “let’s end stigma, break taboos, and stop judging” actually means is “let’s move stigma, place taboos around other things, and carry on judging people but for different reasons”
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RDOS scores - Aspie score 131/200 - neurotypical score 69/200 - very likely Aspie
I try to be nice and open minded to everyone. And people still misunderstand me, even those who already know I'm a nice person. I talked too directly, looked into their eyes too much, asked too many questions, tried to solve their problems, gave too many compliments, not being attentive to people's emotional needs...etc. My list of social sins are endless according NTs.
Considering that I'm an extroverted aspie who likes people and talking, most autistics probably suffer more.
I just can't form deep relationships with NT people. They expect so much stuff that I couldn't understand. i.e. I had nearly a fallout with my mom who doesn't believe in autism, over something silly. She wanted me to buy some stuff for her that's only available in Canada and bring them to her when I visit. I offered to mail them to her so she can use them right away. She got very pissed off, which made me upset, too. I took a long shower afterward, going over everything she said and finally figured out the problem. What do you know? It's money. If I brought it to her she hoped it would be free. But if I mailed it to her she'd feel obligated to pay the shipping, and she doesn't want to. I knew she's always been cheap but it just didn't occur to me that she would care about such a trifling amount. Plus I didn't even ask her to pay for shipping. It's one of those "If only you have me in your heart, you'd know" NT stuff, isn't it?
I do like NT people, it's fun to watch them and study them, but can get uncomfortable and awkward if they get too close. People don't easily understand those who are different, even if they've read books or watched documentaries about them. I just have to accept that they're not going to understand us.
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Just wait until your first real full-time job. You will quickly learn why we feel so negatively toward NTs.
That is, IF they even get it. The wonderful NTs aren't too eager to give us a decent job since they typically have in mind a whole bunch of relatives, friends or other very socially charming and well-connected NTs, for whom they're keeping good positions, regardless of any actual expertise in the relevant field. That is, apart from the jobs no one else wants. At least that has been the case in my neck of the woods.
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Agreed. We don't bite nearly as often.
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I'm sorry. I used that analogy because dogs are one of my special interests and I think Pit Bulls are underappreciated just like autistic people are.
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Link to my autism awareness sketch if interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SjQ ... sp=sharing
Life would be 100% war and survival without them. Go back to the old tribal system where the strongest wins and tribal groups fight against each other...
Look back into history.
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Do you speak out of experience and actually have a clubfoot?
No. Are you suggesting I should reconsider the notion of having a clubfoot being a superpower?
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
Someone rage-quit without telling you their computer password or the combo to their safe? Here, let me have a try . . .
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