What's WORSE Than Motorcycles?

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Ok.. this has taken me off the idea of buying a Dodge Tomohawk awesome futuristic motorcycle...
I think I know... whats worse than that... people without familys who have no need to buy Hummers or Landrovers... or two people who take a four seater table in a cafe

At $100 a barrel maybe it's time to be looking at alternatives..... http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/bicycles/

Harley's are the largest vibrators available.

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i am trying to respond to your hateful comments, jjar, in a calm way
I am 13, i have AS too, I RIDE BMWS with my parents! i understand you are referring to loud obnoxious harley riders and stupid 18 year olds on suzukis, and not all of them are like that too.
not everyone is like that! my parents and I have lives and we are not mindless idiots like them, our bikes our quiet, they only get loud when my dad honks the horn because we're stuck behind a 80 year old couple going 40 MPH on the interstate. we are good people with sensible consienses, my mom is part of a motorcycle online community, and ( i say this politely) you would really want not to say anything about there intellegents, the only person who understands me while i blabber on about my current obbsession:quantum physics, is a member of that site.
we ride sensible bmws that we respect and don't leave burn marks on suburban streets with them, we have a name for those idiots, they are squids, and are the worst examples of motorcyclists yet, many of them pull wheelies in the gas station parking lots for pretty girl and make themselves drooling idiots by cracking there heads open.
I agree with inventor and gismo noisy motorcycles like harleys drive me crazy (they break down to easily too) but motorcycles are awesome, besides with gas prices and all, expect to see more beemer bikes on the road.
ps. gismo, if you want a futuristic bike, go for a R1200ST or F650GS, both BMWs both futuristic looking, both great bikes

Me trying to ride one.

what bugs me is the peoples in the fast cars that do burnouts and generally hoon around (drive like and idiot) at anytime of the day or night. Another thing is the peoples that have rage issues and abuse peoples that are doing the right thing like doing the speed limit and stuff like that.

what u think of vespas and mopeds and scooters? some peeps drive them here and complain of drivers abusing them.

I finally looked in here after passing it by for a while.

Harleys... whether they are older factory bikes or the newer Harley Yuppie Davidsons, come with mufflers.

It's the owners who either strip out the baffles or change to pipes with partial baffles, tunable baffles or straight pipes.

For some folks, having straight pipes is just to get the sound.
It used to be so you could have more power from the engine.

Loud pipes do NOT keep people from running you over!
I have left many a boot print in the rear quarter panel of cars in El Paso, Texas and other places because folks didn't LOOK in their blindspot before changing lanes, as I was passing them!

When I drove ambulances, we picked up a number of Harley riders who were run down by cars... the loud pipes didn't help... but then... most of the types I rode with were usually too drunk or stoned to ride safely on their bikes, and they put themselves into positions where they could get run down. Stupid Biker = Dead Biker.

The new Yuppie Bikers are as bad or WORSE! in my opinion!

You think it's loud and uncomfortable having a Harley with straight pipes ride by your house?
Try riding in a pack, surrounded by them! You can feel the pulse in your chest and hear it for days after!
I quite riding in packs partly for this reason.

I haven't had a Harley since I moved to Alaska in '90, but I would build me my own bike before I spent an outrageous amount of money on a new one!

I actually have a sportster for sale if anyone wants a small Harley!

If you're like me... being anywhere in towns or cities is a big PITA lately. I will be moving out into the country again as soon as I sell some property in Missouri and buy something I can live on, here.

I can't stand the noise anymore.

And I suppose that gives you the right to bother people wth your honking? Because the people driving in front of you are 80 years old? Where is your respect for other people? Maybe your parents need to be teaching you something in that area and that it's definitely not ok to harrass people with smoke, honking and attitudes. Did you ever consider that maybe it's YOU who need to slow down!? Eh. Why even bother asking these questions. In one ear, out the other.....<mutter><mutter>

Despite the fact that coal is dirty, an electric vehicle is actually still more efficient than burning the fossil fuel directly in the vehicle...why? several reasons...

A powerplant is not restricted on the amount of space required for energy-scavenging machinery, like under a vehicle's hood. Powerplants also have room for better/more emission control equipment

Steam, which powerplants use has a higher expansion rate than air, which powers an internal combustion engine

A powerplant generator operates at the same speed, temperature, and load which can be optimized, unlike a vehicle's engine, which must designed to operate well over a wide variety of conditions.

It is also in the best interest of the power company to be efficient. The more energy recovered from the fuel means the more power produced that they can charge customers for. Modern power plants reach almost 60 % efficiency. Compare that to a typical gasoline engine in a bike or car, which is around 25% efficiency.


With all that being said, I'd LOVE to have an electric motorcycle! It looks like they will be a reality faster than electric cars. They currently are using battery technology. Small, sporty motorcycles are a blast to drive. You feel as if you are one with the machine, unlike in an automobile, where you simply feel as though you are guiding an unruly projectile when you get back in one after riding a bike!

I'm not up on current US speed limits, but the equivalent, tootling along on a motorway at 40mph with an upper limit of 70 is foolish, dangerous, and creates all manner of blockages and issues. Also, the elderly are some of the worst drivers imaginable, even going so far as to travel the wrong way down motorways, which is of course, almost always fatal.

Theres nothing wrong with respect for the elderly, but the elderly are just as capable of being f*****g stupid as anyone else, and age does not automatically engender experience or skill.

Depends on the driving conditions, doesn't it....And about 20 other variants and parameters. A drunk driver on the road going 70MPH is a weapon of mass destruction - a person (80,60,40 or 19 for that matter - wth difference does age here make anyway - going a moderate speed of 40MPH in a 70 MPH zone is exercising caution, preference, moderation - whatever - and that's their prerogative! And it's an insane society that would dictate to anyone to drive beyond what the moderate range they're comfortable with! And last time I looked there was a LEFT lane precisely for the purpose of passing.

The elderly are bad drivers? I thought it was women, teens, drunken people <insert your favorite demographic to despise here>? Come on. I know excellent drivers at 80 and I know really lousy ones 18. There's no absolutes here. How many road accidents are caused by senior citizens and how many by teens? Something to look at and then formulate opinions..

Listen, I digress here - the issue at hand is the bloody noise, emissions and attitudes that people on motorcycles have - from the Road Hogs to the Hell's Angels and all the others in between whose preference of ride jars the nerves and rattles the windows of a great many people without them giving a rat's ass, just as long as their fetish is satisfied and they can act out some kind of black leather, high-riding, german-helmeted fantasy all the while flipping fingers at society and humming Born to Be Wild.

MY GOD, YES! Every single time a person swings out of their lane, cutting me off. Every timer a person almost person almost pulverizes me because they merged without singles. Every time someone pulls out in front of me without looking while I'm doing thirty so I have to swerve into the other lane and would be dead if someone was coming and I pray to the sweet lord himself that I survived.

It's always old people. Old people. The Elderly. Geezers. Every single time. I think there should be a mandatory retaking of the road test at age 65.

But to get back on topic. Yeah, the loud motorcycles are annoying, but it's the mode of transportation that they choose and I respect it just as much as if they drove sedans or minivans. Live and let live. Of course, I don't even really drive anymore. I walk and take the train, so really, all of you, motorcycle, car, or otherwise, are obnoxious, noisy polluters in my book.

Teenage Driver Crash Risk Factors
The traffic accident rates for 16- to 19-year old drivers are higher than those for any other age group. What causes teenage drivers to be such risky drivers? The following is a list of their primary risk factors.

Poor hazard detection
The ability to detect hazards in the driving environment depends upon perceptual and information-gathering skills and involves properly identifying stimuli as potential threats. It takes time for young novice drivers to acquire this ability.

Low risk perception
Risk perception involves subjectively assessing the degree of threat posed by a hazard and one's ability to deal with the threat. Young novice drivers tend to underestimate the crash risk in hazardous situations and overestimate their ability to avoid the threats they identify.

Risk Taking
Teenagers tend to take more risks while driving partly due to their overconfidence in their driving abilities. Young novice drivers are more likely to engage in risky behaviors like speeding, tailgating, running red lights, violating traffic signs and signals, making illegal turns, passing dangerously, and failure to yield to pedestrians.

Not wearing seat belts
Teenagers tend to wear safety belts less often than older drivers. Why?

Lack of skill
Novice teenage drivers have not yet completely mastered basic vehicle handling skills and safe-driving knowledge they need to drive safely.

Alcohol and drugs
Driving under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs is a common cause of serious crashes, especially fatal ones, involving teenage drivers. Teenagers who drink and drive are at much greater risk of serious crashes than are older drivers with equal concentrations of alcohol in their blood.

Carrying passengers
For teenagers, the risk of being in a crash increases when they transport passengers-the fatality risk of drivers aged 16-17 years is 3.6 times higher when they are driving with passengers than when they are driving alone, and the relative risk of a fatal crash increases as the number of passengers increases. Passengers who are age peers may distract the teen drivers and encourage them to take more risks, especially for young males riding with young male drivers.

Night driving
The per mile crash rate for teenaged drivers is 3 times higher after 9:00 pm during the day. This is because the task of driving at night is more difficult; they have less experience driving at night than during the day; they are more sleep deprived, and/or because teenage recreational driving, which often involves alcohol, is more likely to occur at night.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/teenweb/more_btn6 ... raffic.htm

I'm sorry you don't understand what i am saying, just please don't pollute others opinions. you are entitled to your opinion and am not going to contredict that.
just one thing: DONT INSULT MY FAMILY AGAIN, please.

Dude, nobody INSULTED your family. OK? I have personal agendas with motorcycles and the riders that don't give a flipping f for people who have VIOLENT reactions to the noise and smells they exude. Sometimes, it's not about you. But it can be if you push hard enough.