What would you do if an aspie threatened to commit suicide?

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You're an idiot. It takes a lot of courage to make such a final decision and follow through with it. All living takes is just going on with one more day at a time. Just letting things happen. And it's NOT like quitting a game because you're losing. In games you have a choice about whether to play or not. In life you don't have that choice. It's like quitting a game that's causing you unending, unbearable pain. It's like quitting a game that you should never have played in the first place. It's not a matter of quitting when things get hard. Things get hard for everyone. It's when they get so hard that you're pushed beyond your limits, beyond the point of being able to think of anyone else or hope for anything better. You've obviously never quite reached that point, because you're still here. I hope you never do get there. Despite the fact that your position on this issue infuriates me, you don't seem like a bad person to me.

As for the "many people" thing: you have to think in terms of quality of life, not just how many people will be affected.
ONE person in endless, unbearable pain.
A FEW people sad.
If you can't see that the few people are more selfish, then that's your problem.

There's not much I can do over the Internet to make someone understand what an euphoric experience life is and how useless suicide is if they don't already know that.
So as everything, I see this from a fairly utilitarian perspective.

Either they will kill themselves or they won't.
If they do:
+ Good riddance. Less whining in the world.
- Too bad for the family or people who actually loved them that they were to egotistical to respect that.

Therefore, I'd suggest they should go to each member of their family and friends, tell them straight out what they want to do, and explain to them why.
If they still want to do it after that, at least it won't leave people wondering why.


If they're truly depressed, old enough to know what they're doing, and it's not just a permanent solution to a temporary problem, then I think they should have the right to do what they please.

Hell, why not make it a family event, like the Japanese of old?
"Come on, kids, uncle Bob is going to commit seppuku in the living room! Get the newspapers so we don't get blood on the carpet."
That way, everybody knows and why, proper measures can be taken to keep things neat and tidy (leaving a rotting corpse in a blood-stained room is just not cricket), the suicider can receive some honor and dignity (instead of being found naked in his bed, bath or beyond the window sill), and the sheer pain of cutting up your own stomach or throat will give him or her an orgasmic appreciation of life. (A lot better than cutting your arms, at least)
Also, if they were to survive this, they would no longer be afraid of death and would therefore feel like they have nothing to lose taking risks and thus probably become very productive, brave, entrepreneuring members of society instead of miserable wastes of space.

Another good alternative, for the people too cowardly to tell their loved ones straight out, is the old, tried and true Nordic way.
Back in the old days, when depression wasn't really recognized, but more like the normal state of life, those who wanted to end themselves sometimes took a stick of dynamite, went out on the ice (this must be done in the winter, btw) of the nearby lake or sea (it was colder back then), far away from land or the nearest populated area, put the dynamite in their mouth, light it, and just wait for it to explode.
That way, they will be able to go out with a bang, wont bother or hurt anyone, and when spring comes, the gore will automatically get cleaned up.


However, if they are attention seekers, they're just going to keep using suicide for attention.
They're taking themselves hostage, over and over again, to get some attention when there are far better ways.
Personally, I have no pity for hostage takers.
I can do without them wasting valuable oxygen.

*Shrug*

Not my choice.

I would get Social Services in to take them away. While I agree that there may be some valid reasons for committing suicide, in most cases the act is taken during a period of acute emotional stress. As such, it's unreliably judged. Even the most tortured soul usually has something in their life worth salvaging, even if its just a cuddly toy they love.

Why's the option only as 'him'?

But anyways - trying to talk an aspie out of severe depression takes immense understanding... very few people have ever managed to help me out of situations and I've never felt suicidal in recent times... so to try and talk an aspie out of feelings so bad as suicidal intentions well... that requires a lot.

I went through a difficult time in junior high with being bullied, and thought, fleetingly, that suicide might be a good idea. However, a year later, I switched schools and got a very special friend, a Siamese cat named Samantha. She was partly responsible for saving my life, and enhanced my life in the 20 years that followed. Losing her was painful but, by that time, I had more cats to love. Pets are very helpful.

Other. I would talk to them about their issues, try to get them to see the bigger picture, that things aren't as bad as they seem, and try to convince them to get help. If they didn't, I would tell someone to get them help. depression is a psychiatric problem that needs help, and I would do all I could to get them that help.

Nobody said the imaginary person in question threatened to commit suicide because he or she is depressed.

agreed,also MW99s threads/posts usually always tend to be written only for aspies,don't know whether is intentional [eg,relate best to aspies?] ,but not everyone here is aspie,yet are still perfectly able to contribute to topics.

am attempted suicide as a teenager and would not want people to do the same,there are eventual ways around everything if the person gets the help and support they need.
am not able to know how would react to someone trying to kill themselves,as have to see it before to know how would react,am would like to stop people from doing it though.


the aspie lady who lives at home did just that on wednesday,she stole a bottle of liquid tegretol from the office whilst the staff had turned around to am to give meds.
staff said she drank it all close to when morning staff were going to be coming in so she wouldn't be as badly affected,people thought she had had a stroke including the paramedics,and they took her into hospital,
when heard it was yet another of her hospital attention attempts [swallowing glass,drinking some bleach, floor cleaner,licking toilet wipes etc-all in front of people] had actually hoped maybe she could die or never wake up,and do the world a favour,have gone through so much agony and torture because of her,the same as many others who have come into contact with her,care more about rubbish on floor than whether she lives or not.

I would try to talk that person out of it.

I really, REALLY resent the idea that me thinking thoughts of suicide were taken as an insult by certain "friends"... that I was only trying to hurt my wife by speaking about it.

heartless b!tch of a "friend".

But I suppose there are those schmucks out there who actually DO threaten suicide for attention-getting or hurting other people - and THOSE people make people in genuine pain look bad. Thanks a lot. [slap]

I agree with this post. I think that people who are in such a bad place are not thinking rationally- like "this too shall pass." To help it pass, I would get them some psychological/psychiatric attention.

While your intentions may be good, the "psychological/psychiatric attention" that the person will get is just one notch above torture. In the US, the medical system is very hostile toward suicidal people. Whenever someone is "rescued", he (or she, for that matter) will be put into painful restraints, such as straitjackets, where he can't even scratch his nose. Then he'll be pumped full of psychoactive drugs that will make him feel sick and frail. Then, they'll have interrogators (posing as psychologists) come into his room, and question him about his motivations for suicide. In the end, he'll be more miserable than he was in the suicidal state. I simply refuse to put a human being through that. Nobody deserves that treatment, unless he was threatening suicide for attention or personal gain.

I wish there was an alternative to the scenario I described. I think that people "rescued" from suicide should first be given something to make them fall asleep, such as nitrous oxide, typically used during surgeries. While asleep, they should be hooked up to an IV filled with very powerful antidepressants. Finally, they'll be taught ways to keep themselves happy, and be prescribed mood elevators that they can take in case of any relapse. Then, and only then, would I feel comfortable calling social services. People shouldn't be punished with misery for feeling miserable.

Your arguments come from prejudice and judgements based on ignorance and lack of understanding what goes in the mind of those people, you should look more into it and you will see that you are wrong, unless you just don't care. If you want people to understand your sexuality and feelings about it, then you should try to be more open minded about a lot of things.

You are not a psychologist, psychiatrist and sociologist, so I know I should not take your opinion seriously, it is offensive? yes, it is to some, to others, it is just laughable.

Dude, I am pushed to my limits at least once a week, but at that point all I can think about is myself, and I think of myself being labeled a quitter. I don't care if others will think that about me, thats how I would think. It has gotten to the point that suicide never crosses my mind once, but what does cross my mind often is that I am dangerous and the world would be safer without me, and somehow suicide still doesn't enter the picture. Life is like a game because times can get hard, but you keep playing and you beat that part and things are better again, and life is even more like a videogame to me because I have to keep playing videogames to keep really bad thoughts out of my head. When I feel sick to my stomach and unable to move due to depression, all I care about is getting out of it, not ending it permanently, so I struggle to get really angry about something and anger heals me somehow, then I go back to playing videogames or something to keep the bad thoughts out of my head.
You are starting to sound like you want me to kill myself. I am more afraid that I can kill somebody else than myself. I know what endless pain is, I am in endless physical pain already, but what could possibly cause endless non-physical pain? I know what does it for me, but thats why I play games and listen to music, I do whatever makes me happy, I don't just try to find a end to everything.
But if you think having several diseases and starving is not endless pain, then maybe thats why those kids in Africa don't commit suicide.

How bout you take a deep breath, relax, and then try responding when you are not bitter and angry.
By "responding" I mean actually responding to what I said, not judging me.