Do Aspies have a Greater Sense of Justice?

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21 Jan 2008, 5:00 pm

I think I have a tremendously higher moral sense on a one to one basis, because I am very "rule oriented" and consequently view moral rules more rigidly than other people. My inability to accept the fact that people are willing to do things to other people to harm them causes me so much stress being exposed to the behavior of other people for even a few hours pretty much just sends me into a spiraling low.


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21 Jan 2008, 5:06 pm

I agree 100%...My uncle (I believe he is an ASPIE...ok, no doubt he's an ASPIE if I've ever seen one...haha), has lived his entire life seeking justice. He hates lawyers, not because they stand for justice, but because he claims most do NOT indeed seek justice. He is constantly harrassed by people, including my mother/grandmother, because he continues to talk about injustices and their view is "what's the big deal...just get over it..." And that's their view whether he was directly impacted by the injustice or not.

With me, I remember a wonderful high school friend who once told me... "What I love most about you is your sense of justice...Unfortunately, I also believe that it must be hard to be you because you want everything to be fair, and unfortunately, life is not fair..." He knew me better than anyone else... (I had one of those dreams about running around naked and nobody could tell I was naked, and I was searching for my clothes, and finally he saw me, ran to me and threw some clothes on me, because HE could see I was naked...they say that has to do with you feeling that "you can't hide from this person, they see right through you...".)

Anyway, yes, I do believe that is the case. Funny thing though...My sister who has always told me to "get over it"...my mom, who's also told me the same, etc...have now had to deal with court issues and the injustices...they are livid...To which of course replied, "Well, I've been saying these things all along...nobody believed me and nobody attempted to do anything about them...instead you have laughed at those who seek justice, like my uncle and myself...because it didn't impact you at the time...that's what happens...maybe next time, you'll think about what we say instead."

Oh, I am horrible sometimes...but, that's how I feel.

The way I see it, NTs (or many), would rather "go with the flow", "not rock the boat...", than seek justice...unless of course, it bites them in their behinds...



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21 Jan 2008, 6:42 pm

As a child, I was pretty much the Gandhi. Except I started crying when I was treated unfairly instead of just taking it. And sometimes I would throw tantrums (screaming and knocking chairs over). But other than that, I was pretty much the Gandhi. Strongly and vocally opposed to unjustice and violence. I still am (not the crying and the tantrums, but the justice and pacifism), but as I avoid people pretty much entirely, I don't get into as many confrontations as I did as a child.


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21 Jan 2008, 9:38 pm

TrueDave wrote:
When I have been caught stealing or speeding or lying I admit it.

It really freaks NTs out.

I was wrong you caught me why stress?

I think we do have a higher sense of justice because we take things literally and in absolutes.
Well, I wouldn't steal or lie in the first place, which freaks out NTs even more :P



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22 Jan 2008, 5:53 am

whatamess wrote:
"Unfortunately, I also believe that it must be hard to be you because you want everything to be fair, and unfortunately, life is not fair..."


Of course it isn't. You do the best you can. But I'm of the view that if something is unfair, you don't just sit on your thumbs and do nothing. You react. Whether it's to move on - or if you can't you fight to make it fair. And really in a lot of cases seeking justice doesn't require a case before a judge.

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My sister who has always told me to "get over it"...my mom, who's also told me the same, etc...have now had to deal with court issues and the injustices...they are livid...To which of course replied, "Well, I've been saying these things all along...nobody believed me and nobody attempted to do anything about them...instead you have laughed at those who seek justice, like my uncle and myself...because it didn't impact you at the time...that's what happens...maybe next time, you'll think about what we say instead."

Oh, I am horrible sometimes...but, that's how I feel.


Not horrible at all! You're showing some backbone and belief in yourself. For that I say "good for you!". I hate being told to "get over it" as well. Unlike you I never got that from my family. They've been great. I can move on (which is not the same thing).

whatamess wrote:
The way I see it, NTs (or many), would rather "go with the flow", "not rock the boat...", than seek justice...unless of course, it bites them in their behinds...


And those who do that are willing to sacrifice their own selves in the process. I'll never accept that aspect of NT life. It's cowardly IMO.



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22 Jan 2008, 6:41 am

I don't know about 'justice'.

I do know that I seem to have some sort of inability to hate.

Hopefully the psychologist/psychiatrist won't try to teach me THAT particular skill.

Who needs it?


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22 Jan 2008, 4:13 pm

Kezz, one learns to hate from society - not therapists. Well, that's the usual procedure of course. There are exceptions!

Hopefully you don't have an experience that teaches you to hate.