Mental and Verbal Echolalia and Palilalia?

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draelynn
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17 Apr 2011, 11:15 am

It seems I do both mostly mentally but occassionally outloud.

The greeting people thing always bothered me. I just repeat the exact same greeting as people give me without answering the question that may have been in it - like 'how are you?'. In fact, with greetings, I just kind of assume the question is rhetorical. It's just a greeting like 'hi' and doesn't really require a response. But repeating the same greeting - i never knew there was a word for that...

I don't repeat words in immediate succession usually but I do repeat entire sentences over and over. It's a family trait.



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17 Apr 2011, 12:48 pm

OK, so as I think about this a bit more after taking the time to learn a little more, I have verbal palilalia and mental echolalia. Never thought much about the mental echolalia ... I always just attributed it to being a man. :) If there is even a two second break in a conversation, I'm gone into my own thoughts. So if you start back up again, it takes me a second or two to lock back in. And I'll need to "rewind" what you just said while I'm kind of staring blankly at you. Frustrates my wife, but at this point, she recognizes it and will even say "rewind, play" herself. I'm still not entirely convinced it's not just a guy thing, but anyway ...

The verbal palilalia thing; yeah, that's weird and that's probably why I "cover it up" and only do it while alone. A couple of posters mentioned it's like rehearsing. I agree to an extent except that I feel like I'm endlessly rehearsing one or two sentences for a conversation I know I'm never going to have. Even annoys me somewhat but I suppose there's a reason I do it; in a way, I think it helps me work through various issues.



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17 Apr 2011, 1:00 pm

I had palilalia (echoing one's own spoken words) when growing up- I would whisper the words back to myself audibly. Eventually, I did outgrow it by the time I was an adult (maybe in part due to teasing). However, my response in conversations is sometimes a bit slow as I have to recite what I am going to say mentally before I speak (I guess you could call it mental echolalia)- kind of like 'quality control' for my words as I process the subject matter. I often will go quiet if the conversation is moving fast as I can't process quickly enough. I do the same with written text and I have to write and rewrite to get my thoughts down in a cohesive manner.

Edit- now that I reread Catamount's post, pretty much what he said applies to me... :lol:



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17 Apr 2011, 2:24 pm

I've always done both of these things. I just called it "getting a word/phrase stuck in your head" and thought everyone did it like they do with songs.



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17 Apr 2011, 6:21 pm

I used to have verbal palilalia when I was little, but my mom eventually got me to stop doing it when I was 8 by constantly reminding me that I was echoing what I had just said. I still repeat things that I and others say in my head to keep track of a conversation, and out loud when I'm stressed and/or overwhelmed. Everything TalusJumper and Catamount mentioned also applies to me.



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17 Apr 2011, 7:47 pm

I always say in my head before I say things out loud. I have access to an extensive vocabulary in my mind, but still have trouble verbalizing my thoughts. I also have mental echolalia.



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18 Apr 2011, 2:27 pm

Yes, but it's a family trait (even my stepdad does it sometimes, maybe he's caught it from the rest of us?). Thinking of random phrases leads to saying them out loud, word-warping or playing on meaning can be fun, but is not so good when I forget i'm in the supermarket. That's not the best time to be quoting quips, adverts or random word associations, but it's like a verbal defence against the visual /auditory overload that those places inflict. Well, that's my excuse anyway :D



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18 Apr 2011, 3:10 pm

OP what you described sounds more like rehearsing than palilalia/echolalia. Everyone mentally rehearses and goes over conversations and the events of the day in their head.....but aspies might do this longer and repeat the same part of the conversation again and again. Tony Atwood talks about this. I do this too.......my brain becomes like a stuck record and I can't stop replaying a particular part of a conversation over and over..............it's called perseveration...................



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08 Oct 2016, 4:52 am

Hi I know its an old topic but I think its the best place to post my thoughts an questions.

I'm new to this site.
I was googling to see if there are more people with autism or Asperger that have something similar to echolalia but not voiced out.
From time to time I have sentences that keep repeating in my head over and over again.

(something like delayed echolalia but only in my head)

These are sentences that are part of conversations (also from years ago), things I have said or things that others have said. Also parts from different conversations that I keep repeating in my head, one after the other, in random order.

Maybe its a way to practice conversations.


These sentences distract me from keeping concentrated when I study something, sometimes, (that's why I first thought hat I have ADD)

My psychiatrist told me that it's delayed echolalia.

I wonder how common this sort of echolalia is with people ho have Asperger?

I read that a lot off people with autism have echolalia or delayed echolalia where they actually speak the words (whitch I never did i think). But I cant find anything about the echolalia like I have.

What do you think?