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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochondriac



That was interesting. Which is why it is important to see a psychologist in regard to ASDs before concluding with certainty you actually have one. If I'm a hypochondriac as such, my problems can go away; I've put considerable effort into making them go away without success but then could also be all in my head anyway. Obsess over the possibilities, I most certainly have done that! A consequence of having too much time on your hands combined with some unexplained deficets here and there along with a childhood history that suggests such a condition will lead to considering the possibility of having such a condition. And even with the chronic introspection that comes with considering the possibility of AS, I must admit, studying this stuff is very interesting by itself and has become a hobby of its own that has taken up copious amounts of time just trying to learn how this condition affects others and this society.

I wonder how many people here are just quirky extreme introverts with poor common sense. That could describe me too, but like any other explanation, leaves its share of unexplained variables and conditions. I wonder how many people are misdiagnosed with AS/HFA due to their personality type by an inept psychiatrist(which is why psychologists are better for this task, IMO, since they're more likely to have better tools for assessment).



In order to know who is 'real' and who isn't, you'd probably have to see them in person. In the case of DanielIsMyName, he showed proof of it, and he's a severe case. Also, there are probably a large number of false positives for AS in this society as well, and also some disagreement upon who would actually fit the criteria for the condition. I know a person online who went undiagnosed with the condition until he was 20 years old, and functioned perfectly normal until then without any suspicions of having had the condition in childhood, with the exception of being a social outcast from middle school onward.

Hypochondria is an anxiety disorder. They are genuinely fearful they are ill, whereas Munchausen is pathological lies.

Unreal.

But but, while they're faking, they're sick too, but another sickness -- Factitious Disorder Malingering Disorder.

I have to check the difference between the two. One is centered around profit, the other around non-profit sympathy. One is non-for-profit

its a serious personality disorder, very serious. It itself deserves sympathy ok! So I understand Spokane Girl the focus on what they're doing that's wrong. But we must IMHO look at WHY they're doing this. It's a PERSONALITY DISORDER that is quite serious.

Those with Factitious will DENY IT ALL at all cost. The second you critizize them AT ALL LOOK OUT! They will go on the attack, sometimes physical yea, but usually verbal and through the Internet and also through gossip and spreading lies and rumors to attack back. They often will also destroy you're property to get back attack back. Watch when you diagnose someone with Factitious.

A little while ago I saw a documentary on discovery channel about a mother with Munchausen syndrome. She poisoned her child for 7 years to try and get sympathy from her ex-partner when they had to meet in the hospital for their sons sake.
I have to say that I think this is a VERY weird disorder. Poisoning your own kid to get yourself attention is just...so wrong.

Yes pathological lies, but being pathological, a disorder also. Check my last post. Factitious Disorder and Malingering Disorder and Münchhausen are DISORDERS themselves DSM diagnostic and statistical manual of mental illnesses.

Are you saying I made those stories up?


I can try and dig for them if you don't believe me. I know the first story was posted on another forum I go to, I can dig for that when I have a the time.

Same with with the second story I told, I believe it was posted on here so I can try and dig for that too and post both links here.

Then you can say if they are still unreal or not.

Sure I understand that however the causes of such disorders are various and may be difficult if not impossible to treat let alone cure.

I think the work personality disorder is over used however.

There are a couple of things I would like to add to this discussion-
Spokane Girl (in case you were unaware of this), "unreal" is an expression not of disbelief of your statement, but that the actions were described were so out of the usual and were reprehensible.
Also, if someone were attempting a psychiatric or ASD condition, it would not be Munchausen's or Munchausen's by proxy, and is therefore a completely separate topic. Someone with Munchausen's would, for instance, convince doctors to do abdominal exploratory surgery to find the cause of "mystery" pain...then get complications somehow...like more abdominal pain...and love every minute of being sick and having the pillow fluffed and the straw bent just so, and seem to like having the colostomy bag they end up with eventually after so many of these surgeries. And getting pain medicine exactly every three hours. I have seen this, more than once, and it's creepy. Since (because of liability etc) a doctor can't just say "It's all in your head; all your scans are normal, even though everybody knows that the patient has Munchausen's nobody can say it to the person herself (have only seen this happen with females.)

like this?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp284496. ... ht=#284496

Because I had whats called Prococious Puberty starting at age 4. From what I know prococious puberty is common in intersexed and especially with CAH. Basically I had something start a surge of androgens in the body that start converting to estrogens. Upon examination they found I have an extra apendage and going to male doctors of course I became their new toy to show off to other drs. They wanted to do exploratory surgery to look for an ova-teste. I begged my mom not to let them do surgery so between her being half Native American therefore hating western medicine and my dad being a cheapskate and not wanting to incur more bills I was saved from having the surgery.

Now in my 30's drs have started discovering I'm different again. They still can't explain my raging hormone levels. I don't test positive for CAH or ovarian cysts or a pituitary tumor which are all the possibilities they can come up with other than I may have testicular tissue somewhere that is producing the androgens. In fact I'm scheduled for another MRI to look again for the tumor that apparently doesn't exist. Yeah I just love to keep them guessing. The drs won't listen to me, but I think I am a chimera because I was suppose to have a stillborn twin brother according to my mom. So I think I absorbed some of his DNA. I mean that's what I look like with the extra tissue and not like the classic intersexed pictures I've seen. Though chimerism is now considered a form of intersexed. Chimerism would also explain my having autoimmune diseases which no one else in family has ever had. From what I understand my mom was given DES to conceive so that's probably why I ended up like this.

BTW- I noticed even though it says this is a women's only forum that men often visit here. Guys for some reason are entralled with the idea of intersex and for the record I am not interested guys and no you can't get a photo. I've had offers from men all over the world who troll intersex boards; its kinda pathetic. I'm only interested in women and very few of them at that.

So are you saying that doctors are accusing you of Munchausen's, i.e. taking hormones or steroids to create symptoms?

that isnt about me, did you click the link?

You missed the mark. It's a couple of posts up from the link.

Oh whoops I did- but you pasted it in this thread in a format that made me think you had written it- sorry.

well reguardless you get the point

How is Munchausen's pronounced? "Mon-shaw-zan's"?

Well regardless I don't see how that applies to this topic, as that poster is refusing invasive medical intervention for the issue.
I believe I had a secret male twin too; that might be weird or delusional or indicative of an overactive imagination, but not harmful in any way that I can discern.