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19 Apr 2008, 4:30 pm

No, I really don't. I couldn't care less who is reading what I say. But if it's any consolation, I don't generally swear and use adult concepts when communicating on forums.


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19 Apr 2008, 4:44 pm

It’s difficult to censor language on the internet because different people and cultures have different standards on what’s acceptable language. I know people who find words like “crap” and “sucks” to be vulgar even though most children these days use those words by the age of 6. I know other people who see nothing wrong with cussing like sailors in front of their young children. Personally, I think parents should be more concerned about the content their kids are viewing rather than the language.



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19 Apr 2008, 4:48 pm

I agree. you cant shelter kids from languege forever anyway because sooner or later they will pick them up.


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19 Apr 2008, 4:53 pm

angelgirl1224 wrote:
I agree. you cant shelter kids from languege forever anyway because sooner or later they will pick them up.


OH YEAH, I KNOW! Even the words that were once BANNED by the FTC are used on radio and TV FREELY in the US. Still, it is nice to be a cut above, and not have them learn it HERE!

Will Smith is actually FAMOUS for not using such words in his rap, etc...



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19 Apr 2008, 5:41 pm

I'm willing to play by the rules here, but let's be honest - this is not about "the kids", its about their parents. Most of us know, if we can remember back to when we were kids, that neither cable TV, satellite radio, R/X/NC-17-rated movies, nor the internet have anything more shocking or offensive than what kids hear all the time on the playground. The "kid-friendly" rules are for parents who wish to believe otherwise.



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19 Apr 2008, 6:23 pm

i dont swear but my mucik indrest is another thing...that reaper is threathning :roll:


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19 Apr 2008, 7:09 pm

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Kaleido, you met Smelena?! That's fantastic!

Yes it was :D

Smelena joined us at an aspie meet in the Science Museum. There must have been towards ten of us at some point and instead of going round the Museum, we all sat talking before we set off... and sat talking... and sat talking some more until I got hungry and begged to go for tea :lol: then we went to little chinese buffet in a basement restaurant and six of us that were left sat on a round table (perfect) and talked some more and ate lots of yummy food. It was great :D

I think it helped Helen to sit and listen to firsthand experiences of us as adults and see that we have all survived and hear that each of us is doing our best with our lives.

Sorry to talk about you Smelena behind your back as it were :wink:


Kaleido, it was a fantastic day and I learned sooooooo much. I found it incredibly helpful to listen to everyone's firsthand experiences.

My 9 year old goes on WP regularly. I've told him he's not allowed to go in The Haven or the Adult section. Quite frankly, he finds some of the 'heavier' posts boring and doesn't read them anyway.

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19 Apr 2008, 8:19 pm

I never alter my posts based on who may or may not be reading them. As long as I try to remain appropriate to the forum, there is very little I could say that would be inappropriate to anyone reading posts in said forum. It probably also helps that I tend to shy away from profanity in general, as what words you use are a clear indicator not only of your vocabulary, but also of the content of your character.



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19 Apr 2008, 8:45 pm

Semantics.

Words are just words. They only mean what we attribute them to mean. Have you ever thought about why bad words are bad words? Who makes up the rules?

It's not that long ago that a fag was a cigarette in England. Look what the Yanks have done to a perfectly enjoyable oral fixation.

Kids hear these things in public and on telly and in the movies just as well as they can on here. I blame Bart Simpson.


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19 Apr 2008, 9:10 pm

archdude wrote:
I'm willing to play by the rules here, but let's be honest - this is not about "the kids", its about their parents. Most of us know, if we can remember back to when we were kids, that neither cable TV, satellite radio, R/X/NC-17-rated movies, nor the internet have anything more shocking or offensive than what kids hear all the time on the playground. The "kid-friendly" rules are for parents who wish to believe otherwise.


Actually, when I grew up, such talk was ILLEGAL!! !! !! A radiostation or TV station caught doing it could be fined, sanctioned and, possibly, LOSE THEIR LICENSE! Just look at how much one broadcasting company got fined RECENTLY for a woman showing a nipple! Frankly, it was HER fault and UNEXPECTED and any kid would be hurt more from other things, etc... so I don't get what the big deal was.

Did you ever notice that the shows that came out about the time I was a kid and were popular:

1. Showed couples in SEPARATE BEDS!
2. Didn't show belly buttons in a number of cases.
3. Didn't swear, etc...

Frankly, I didn't miss the lack of expletives, etc....

Still, I remember some cards that came out around 1969-1970. They were almost like a bit cleaner version of southpark. I THOUGHT they were called "garbage pail kids", but those sites claim they first came out over a decade later, and they were different. I SWEAR, in my area I don't remember hearing the swearing, etc... until about 1973. I am basing the dates on fixed points of reference.



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19 Apr 2008, 9:12 pm

Liverbird wrote:
Semantics.

Words are just words. They only mean what we attribute them to mean. Have you ever thought about why bad words are bad words? Who makes up the rules?.

I couldn't agree more.


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It's not that long ago that a fag was a cigarette in England. Look what the Yanks have done to a perfectly enjoyable oral fixation..

Well, "fag" in the current American sense means "homosexual", and in that sense I am sure that there are many fags who find other fags to be "perfectly enjoyable oral fixation(s)" ! :lol:

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Kids hear these things in public and on telly and in the movies just as well as they can on here. I blame Bart Simpson.

Bart Simpson is not nearly as evil as Eric Cartman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cartman



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19 Apr 2008, 9:39 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
archdude wrote:
I'm willing to play by the rules here, but let's be honest - this is not about "the kids", its about their parents. Most of us know, if we can remember back to when we were kids, that neither cable TV, satellite radio, R/X/NC-17-rated movies, nor the internet have anything more shocking or offensive than what kids hear all the time on the playground. The "kid-friendly" rules are for parents who wish to believe otherwise.


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Actually, when I grew up, such talk was ILLEGAL!! !! !!

To say on TV or radio, NOT in private.

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A radiostation or TV station caught doing it could be fined, sanctioned and, possibly, LOSE THEIR LICENSE!

I realize that's true, but it still doesn't change the fact that kids were always kids, and always used the most obscene words that they knew, told the most sexually explicit stories they could imagine, and generally said whatever would generate the greatest shock effect, around other kids.



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19 Apr 2008, 9:48 pm

archdude wrote:
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I'm willing to play by the rules here, but let's be honest - this is not about "the kids", its about their parents. Most of us know, if we can remember back to when we were kids, that neither cable TV, satellite radio, R/X/NC-17-rated movies, nor the internet have anything more shocking or offensive than what kids hear all the time on the playground. The "kid-friendly" rules are for parents who wish to believe otherwise.


2ukenkerl wrote:
Actually, when I grew up, such talk was ILLEGAL!! !! !!

To say on TV or radio, NOT in private.

2ukenkerl wrote:
A radiostation or TV station caught doing it could be fined, sanctioned and, possibly, LOSE THEIR LICENSE!

I realize that's true, but it still doesn't change the fact that kids were always kids, and always used the most obscene words that they knew, told the most sexually explicit stories they could imagine, and generally said whatever would generate the greatest shock effect around other kids.


You're right about all that, but it didn't seem like young kids knew about all that. Even some CONCEPTS seemed more abstract to them. Frankly, I don't remember hearing anything sexually explicit at that age.



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19 Apr 2008, 10:02 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
archdude wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
archdude wrote:
I'm willing to play by the rules here, but let's be honest - this is not about "the kids", its about their parents. Most of us know, if we can remember back to when we were kids, that neither cable TV, satellite radio, R/X/NC-17-rated movies, nor the internet have anything more shocking or offensive than what kids hear all the time on the playground. The "kid-friendly" rules are for parents who wish to believe otherwise.


2ukenkerl wrote:
Actually, when I grew up, such talk was ILLEGAL!! !! !!

To say on TV or radio, NOT in private.

2ukenkerl wrote:
A radiostation or TV station caught doing it could be fined, sanctioned and, possibly, LOSE THEIR LICENSE!

I realize that's true, but it still doesn't change the fact that kids were always kids, and always used the most obscene words that they knew, told the most sexually explicit stories they could imagine, and generally said whatever would generate the greatest shock effect around other kids.


You're right about all that, but it didn't seem like young kids knew about all that. Even some CONCEPTS seemed more abstract to them. Frankly, I don't remember hearing anything sexually explicit at that age.

Well tell me this: before all the sex and curse words in the media were kids really _nicer_ to their peers than they were in my time, or than they are today? Because the impression I get from my parents and other people of their generation is that _THEY WEREN'T!_



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20 Apr 2008, 8:45 am

WP censors you if you use swearwords, I wrote about people feeling like s**t once and it censored it for me (look, it happened again). Good thing in my opinion.

I wouldn't have talked about sexual harassment the other day if I'd thought about kids reading it but I doubt many of them read that thread anyway.

One thing I've been thinking about since I've been here is that there are many high-strung young men and they sometimes take a cavalier view of women, especially if you read the Love&Dating forum it can be very disconcerting. They overhear things in locker-rooms and see things on the internet and apply them to real women, not knowing the difference. If I had kids I wouldn't want them to be exposed to that. But I guess in the larger scheme of things it's not a big problem.



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20 Apr 2008, 10:39 am

Yeah, I long for the old days, when kids who were despised and unwanted; kids who were beat up, kids who were subjected to ridicule and humiliation by parents, teachers and peers, didn't have to live with the trauma of hearing words like s**t and f**k.


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