Clueless therapist thinks I don't have AS because I'm pretty

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Ishmael
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27 Jul 2008, 6:05 am

Why do people think that because they are NT, we are AS, they can accurately tell us why we behave as we do?
How the hell do they know? People have known about autism for nearly a century now - yet still, no progress!
Duh... point proven, much?



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27 Jul 2008, 6:10 am

Well, you said she thinks you don't have it for you're just "soft-spoken".

Did she refute any of your points?

I.e., if you say you lack social and emotional reciprocity, did she tell you why she thinks you don't (insert any of the other core symptoms in the place of social and emotion reciprocity)?



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27 Jul 2008, 6:23 am

Personally I think no one on her is qualified to make a diagnose, unless you are a doctor, and you lknow the person who started the thread really well. There are a number of conditions similiar to AS, all with different out comes and so on.
Although I must confess my adult psychatrist is really s**t, he won't prescribe stimulants to me because apparently they're only for children (when in fact it's probably because during the transition from child to adult shrink I started abusing drugs, one part self medication, 2 parts interest, and 5 parts not think the consequences of drug abuse apply to me), he has this confused idea that I have to be bouncing off the walls all the time and that my only problem related to AD/HD was hyperactivity where in fact it is generally Attention and my poor short term memory, he really upset me by suggesting I had symptoms of psychoses then put me on Zyprexa (which is very sh it and did really nothin asside from make my heart feel fluttery and give me s**t nightmares, in fact I pointed this out to him *about the dreams and their nature* then spoke about an unrelated incident where I had taken ketamine the week before and I thought god had been sending me messages in my dreams, and I think he though I meant that I thought that without ingesting K, which is stupid because I don't believe in god ikn the first place and I don't have schizophrenia and he said to me 'but the dreams didn't come true?' which of course I pointed out 'Well, ofcourse they didn't come true they're dreams'., and repeatedly asked me if I heard voices which ofcourse I hear his voice (but I don't need to point that out to him as he knows I can hear his voice and I pressume he knows that I know that he means voices in my head), in fact the doctors piss me off so much, if only I could afford private treatment, then maybe I wouldn't have to explain what MDMA is to a supposed qulified proffessional, and maybe I would actually get a letter from him after each session (which the child services did) I'd get better option over my treatment and they wouldn't make me want to knife themm becuase they're not as ROOBASH.
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27 Jul 2008, 7:02 am

I've had people tell me that I don't have autism, because I'm well-spoken and I don't have a speech impediment. I've also been told that I can't have it, because I was in the regular schools, and that my eye contact is good.


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27 Jul 2008, 7:26 am

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OMG just when did ugly become an AS trait :lol:


Discussion of Aspie ugliness.


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27 Jul 2008, 7:48 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Well, you said she thinks you don't have it for you're just "soft-spoken".

Did she refute any of your points?

I.e., if you say you lack social and emotional reciprocity, did she tell you why she thinks you don't (insert any of the other core symptoms in the place of social and emotion reciprocity)?


I've only told her a few things because she talks so much about herself, she hardly lets me talk. Every time I say something like 'I have trouble recognizing people I should know' she says 'Oh I have that problem too!' and then talks about herself. I said 'In a group, I just stand there feeling awkward, not knowing who to talk to or what to say.' and then she says, 'I am the same way! blah, blah, blah....' :x OK lady! Do you have AS and are in total and complete denial or what? Does she think that I am some idiot that just wants someone to 'understand' and be reassured that I am normal? Because I sure as hell do not feel understood by her. And she is only a LCSW, I'm not sure she is even qualified to make a diagnosis, but this is who my insurance sent me to.

I would appreciate it if you would check my thread 'list of my Aspie traits' and let me know what you think.



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27 Jul 2008, 7:52 am

So people with AS are supposed to be ugly?



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27 Jul 2008, 9:12 am

PunkyKat wrote:
So people with AS are supposed to be ugly?


PunkyKat, you could never be ugly.



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27 Jul 2008, 9:29 am

mysterious_misfit wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Well, you said she thinks you don't have it for you're just "soft-spoken".

Did she refute any of your points?

I.e., if you say you lack social and emotional reciprocity, did she tell you why she thinks you don't (insert any of the other core symptoms in the place of social and emotion reciprocity)?


I've only told her a few things because she talks so much about herself, she hardly lets me talk. Every time I say something like 'I have trouble recognizing people I should know' she says 'Oh I have that problem too!' and then talks about herself. I said 'In a group, I just stand there feeling awkward, not knowing who to talk to or what to say.' and then she says, 'I am the same way! blah, blah, blah....' :x OK lady! Do you have AS and are in total and complete denial or what? Does she think that I am some idiot that just wants someone to 'understand' and be reassured that I am normal? Because I sure as hell do not feel understood by her. And she is only a LCSW, I'm not sure she is even qualified to make a diagnosis, but this is who my insurance sent me to.

I would appreciate it if you would check my thread 'list of my Aspie traits' and let me know what you think.


Some people become psychiatrists because THEY have problems! It sounds like we know why YOUR psychiatrist became one! :wink: 8O

BTW One possible symptom of as is being "soft spoken". It is on the DSM about not controling the volume and having it too loud or SOFT!



27 Jul 2008, 9:33 am

2ukenkerl wrote:
mysterious_misfit wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Well, you said she thinks you don't have it for you're just "soft-spoken".

Did she refute any of your points?

I.e., if you say you lack social and emotional reciprocity, did she tell you why she thinks you don't (insert any of the other core symptoms in the place of social and emotion reciprocity)?


I've only told her a few things because she talks so much about herself, she hardly lets me talk. Every time I say something like 'I have trouble recognizing people I should know' she says 'Oh I have that problem too!' and then talks about herself. I said 'In a group, I just stand there feeling awkward, not knowing who to talk to or what to say.' and then she says, 'I am the same way! blah, blah, blah....' :x OK lady! Do you have AS and are in total and complete denial or what? Does she think that I am some idiot that just wants someone to 'understand' and be reassured that I am normal? Because I sure as hell do not feel understood by her. And she is only a LCSW, I'm not sure she is even qualified to make a diagnosis, but this is who my insurance sent me to.

I would appreciate it if you would check my thread 'list of my Aspie traits' and let me know what you think.


Some people become psychiatrists because THEY have problems! It sounds like we know why YOUR psychiatrist became one! :wink: 8O

BTW One possible symptom of as is being "soft spoken". It is on the DSM about not controling the volume and having it too loud or SOFT![/quote]


Where at in the criteria?



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27 Jul 2008, 11:49 am

Pic(s) please? You can PM me.

I'm actually kidding, but if she's judging on looks, maybe you need to get a new therapist.



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27 Jul 2008, 12:18 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
mysterious_misfit wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Well, you said she thinks you don't have it for you're just "soft-spoken".

Did she refute any of your points?

I.e., if you say you lack social and emotional reciprocity, did she tell you why she thinks you don't (insert any of the other core symptoms in the place of social and emotion reciprocity)?


I've only told her a few things because she talks so much about herself, she hardly lets me talk. Every time I say something like 'I have trouble recognizing people I should know' she says 'Oh I have that problem too!' and then talks about herself. I said 'In a group, I just stand there feeling awkward, not knowing who to talk to or what to say.' and then she says, 'I am the same way! blah, blah, blah....' :x OK lady! Do you have AS and are in total and complete denial or what? Does she think that I am some idiot that just wants someone to 'understand' and be reassured that I am normal? Because I sure as hell do not feel understood by her. And she is only a LCSW, I'm not sure she is even qualified to make a diagnosis, but this is who my insurance sent me to.

I would appreciate it if you would check my thread 'list of my Aspie traits' and let me know what you think.


Some people become psychiatrists because THEY have problems! It sounds like we know why YOUR psychiatrist became one! :wink: 8O

BTW One possible symptom of as is being "soft spoken". It is on the DSM about not controling the volume and having it too loud or SOFT![/quote]


Where at in the criteria?


ooops :oops: I know I have seen it elsewhere, but not here:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/overvi ... iteria.htm

still, it is a common feature discussed many places including here.



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27 Jul 2008, 4:16 pm

There's also the halo effect, a well-known phenomenon where, if you're attractive, people think you can't possibly have any problems. (People expect more from attractive people, as if attractiveness is a sign of overall ability.)

Yeah, look for another diagnostician if you can.



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27 Jul 2008, 4:44 pm

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I know you already know (!), but your 'therapist' is a freaking idiot. I'm 'pretty' too, plus feminine. Yes, I wear eyeshadow and light makeup (ie: lipstick). I am a feminine female. I'm very soft-spoken, feminine in affect.

If you're therapist doesn't 'get this,' FIRE her. And tell her, in a ladylike way, she's NUTS. Do wear your glittery shoes. Have you tried fishnet stockings? Then ditch her. Pretty women can be autistic too. I am the Lab Pet.

Sorry you encountered the boorish therapist, mysterious_misfit. They abound....sigh. Slay the Beasties.


Totally agree, what an @#$% sorry but it frustrates me the amount of clueless professionals out there. Just copy this thread and suggest she learn some more about AS before trying to diagnose it.


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27 Jul 2008, 6:35 pm

mysterious_misfit wrote:

I've only told her a few things because she talks so much about herself, she hardly lets me talk. Every time I say something like 'I have trouble recognizing people I should know' she says 'Oh I have that problem too!' and then talks about herself. I said 'In a group, I just stand there feeling awkward, not knowing who to talk to or what to say.' and then she says, 'I am the same way! blah, blah, blah....' :x OK lady! Do you have AS and are in total and complete denial or what? Does she think that I am some idiot that just wants someone to 'understand' and be reassured that I am normal? Because I sure as hell do not feel understood by her. And she is only a LCSW, I'm not sure she is even qualified to make a diagnosis, but this is who my insurance sent me to.

I would appreciate it if you would check my thread 'list of my Aspie traits' and let me know what you think.


Complain to your insurance company and demand a change, she isn't even barely competant, and, as an LCSW, DEFINATELY is not qualified to diagnose.

Incidentally, (except for the long hairpiece at back) my avatar is really me, a month before my 50th birthday this spring...and I was diagnosed by Micheal Fitzgerald...feel free to print and show it to her.

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27 Jul 2008, 8:40 pm

mysterious_misfit - You could print your list here, I'm sure we can all relate! Any decent therapist/diagnostician should be looking at what you compiled; the fact she does not, even downplaying your difficultites shows she's not right for you!

Not to be too personal, but I had a counselor who hurt me profoundly. I saw her only a few times but I still suffer from her mistreatment. She was abusive and now the Human Rights Commision, Adult Protective Services, and a private lawyer are investigating her. Still, I am left with the hurt. Granted, I doubt your therapist is mean in this way, but perhaps inept? Just doesn't 'get it'? She's not worth the effort! Invest elsewhere.


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