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06 Aug 2008, 11:16 am

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There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Edit: Tend to be



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06 Aug 2008, 11:17 am

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There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Really? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim?


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06 Aug 2008, 11:17 am

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I, too, find false superiority to be incredibly off-putting. And it's also one of the things that is causing the United States to become so divided these days. Why not just realize that everyone on this earth is a human being, and learn to accept other human beings for who they are, flaws and all, just like they accept you, flaws and all? Seriously, why is there any sort of need for superiority complexes in this day and age?


Because when vast numbers of people see you as inferior it's natural to want to get back at them by labeling them inferior. Not saying it's logical. It's just how emotions work.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:19 am

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I, too, find false superiority to be incredibly off-putting. And it's also one of the things that is causing the United States to become so divided these days. Why not just realize that everyone on this earth is a human being, and learn to accept other human beings for who they are, flaws and all, just like they accept you, flaws and all? Seriously, why is there any sort of need for superiority complexes in this day and age?


Because when vast numbers of people see you as inferior it's natural to want to get back at them by labeling them inferior. Not saying it's logical. It's just how emotions work.

Just because that's how emotions work doesn't mean that it's socially okay to act that way. Trust me, I've learned the hard way that acting superior to others just makes them angry at you, and having others be angry at you is not a fun experience.


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06 Aug 2008, 11:20 am

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There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Really? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim?


Only personal experience.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:21 am

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hannah87 wrote:
There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Really? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim?


Only personal experience.

Personal experience of how much of the total population of NTs?


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06 Aug 2008, 11:22 am

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I was just thinking about this a bit more. While I agree that the some of the attitudes here are a bit skewed I don’t really see the need to take offense to it. Like intense said I see the reasons why such attitudes occur. Also the number of NT’s who get their feelings hurt by coming to this site and seeing all the negativity is negligibly small compared to what a lot of us have to put up with on a daily basis living in a society that is, as a whole, very intolerant of differences. I guess I just have more sympathy for the underdogs of society than the majority. People who feel the need to harp like the OP did come across as being motivated by self-righteousness to me. I don't see how he can really be as offended as he pretends to be.

Just because some NTs hurt your feelings is no reason to hurt their feelings. Two wrongs don't make a right, you know?


You totally missed my point there. Of course it doesn't make a right but it's very understandable.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:23 am

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There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Really? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim?


Only personal experience.

Personal experience of how much of the total population of NTs?


Okay in the geological location of where I am and the people I have met, antisocial NT's tend to be smarter based off my personal interaction I have had with them.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:24 am

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I, too, find false superiority to be incredibly off-putting. And it's also one of the things that is causing the United States to become so divided these days. Why not just realize that everyone on this earth is a human being, and learn to accept other human beings for who they are, flaws and all, just like they accept you, flaws and all? Seriously, why is there any sort of need for superiority complexes in this day and age?


Because when vast numbers of people see you as inferior it's natural to want to get back at them by labeling them inferior. Not saying it's logical. It's just how emotions work.

Just because that's how emotions work doesn't mean that it's socially okay to act that way. Trust me, I've learned the hard way that acting superior to others just makes them angry at you, and having others be angry at you is not a fun experience.


Did I say it was fine? Nooooo.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:24 am

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There are anti-social neurotypicals out there, you know. What about them?


The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.

Really? Do you have any actual evidence to support that claim?


Only personal experience.

Personal experience of how much of the total population of NTs?


Okay in the geological location of where I am and the people I have met, antisocial NT's tend to be smarter based off my personal interaction I have had with them.

Thank you. That's much better. I hope I'm not coming off as rude, by the way. My entire family is neurotypical, and I just feel the need to stand up for them.


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06 Aug 2008, 11:32 am

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Thank you. That's much better. I hope I'm not coming off as rude, by the way. My entire family is neurotypical, and I just feel the need to stand up for them.


I'd like to clarify that I'm not saying there are no smart social NTs, I have just met fewer relative to antisocial ones.

An example that comes to mind is my work friend who reads books at lunch and isnt very social was the only person at work (besides another aspie) who understood the possibility of not having free will. No one else could engage in that conversation without comming off as sounding stupid.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:34 am

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I was just thinking about this a bit more. While I agree that the some of the attitudes here are a bit skewed I don’t really see the need to take offense to it. Like intense said I see the reasons why such attitudes occur. Also the number of NT’s who get their feelings hurt by coming to this site and seeing all the negativity is negligibly small compared to what a lot of us have to put up with on a daily basis living in a society that is, as a whole, very intolerant of differences. I guess I just have more sympathy for the underdogs of society than the majority. People who feel the need to harp like the OP did come across as being motivated by self-righteousness to me. I don't see how he can really be as offended as he pretends to be.


Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is just pretending.

Come to think of it, when did I say I was offended? It's not about being offended, and quite frankly it wouldn't matter if there wasn't asingle NT who came on this site and got offended by it.

THESE ATTITUDES ARE STILL STUPID, WRONG, ARROGANT, IGNORANT AND A WHOLE PLETHORA OF OTHER THINGS.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:44 am

[quote="Draws"]The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.[quote]

Why do assume that? What correlation is there between intelligence and antisocial behaviour? There is none.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:47 am

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The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.
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Why do assume that? What correlation is there between intelligence and antisocial behaviour? There is none.


As I mentioned above this is only from my personal experience and rationalized it to be because they spend more time learning things then socializing.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:48 am

I find most people are stupid regardless of neurology. I have no evidence to support this belief. This is just my subjective interpretation of my experiences of humans. While most people are capable of rational thought, its seems that rational thought does not seem attractive to many. I have seen a lot of emotional reasoning in my time and some of that has been on this forum. I find humanity's reliance on emotions to make decisions to be its greatest weakness and the cause of a lot of our greatest problems.

I don't believe autistic people are superior to others. I think all humans are equally worthless. I mean worthless in that its impossible to attach worth to any living creature. They are all of equal worth and therefore all are worthless.



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06 Aug 2008, 11:53 am

Draws wrote:
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The antisocial ones are the smarter ones.
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Why do assume that? What correlation is there between intelligence and antisocial behaviour? There is none.


As I mentioned above this is only from my personal experience and rationalized it to be because they spend more time learning things then socializing.


Being by yourself doesn't necessarily mean you're learning at some incredible superhuman rate. Socializing is learning, as well. Socialiazing is actually a pretty good way to learn all kinds of things ... from others.