What does everyone think about the 2012 prophecy

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Ishmael
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08 Aug 2008, 7:15 am

The world will end but probably becuase the handlers of the next white-trash backwards ret*d American president will forget to keep track of said president and the big red button.


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08 Aug 2008, 7:31 am

Has anabody come across some real/most likely theories or is all just speculation? I think this is different from the Y2K bs


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08 Aug 2008, 12:51 pm

Paperplate wrote:
Has anabody come across some real/most likely theories or is all just speculation? I think this is different from the Y2K bs



I remember watching a number of planes flying overhead at Y2K, it was great. Half the town was panicking at them being up there, but of course nothing happened.


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08 Aug 2008, 12:54 pm

I don't believe in any of these theories, not for a second.


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08 Aug 2008, 1:05 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't believe in any of these theories, not for a second.


I second this opinion. Usually only the mentally imbalanced need such nonsense to help them make sense of their world. I have my brain for that and I don't need some ridiculous "prophecy".

I predict that the world will end when the universe does and I predict that humans will probably be extinct by then and Earth will be ruled by sentient cats. Or cockroaches, rats and flies.



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08 Aug 2008, 1:27 pm

I've been interested in the Mayan prophecy since I learned about it in 6th grade. Of course, keeping in mind what this guy said:

LeKiwi wrote:
The Mayans did NOT predict the end of the world in 2012...


Dunno how much I believe in it, or if I'll freak out or not...I didn't freak out on Y2K, but then again, I kept thinking "12 years too soon" @_@ Hopefully it'll just be a nice healthy cleansing, I think I've seen enough post-apocalyptic movies to know how to handle myself in any possible outcome ;)

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Too bad the Mayans couldn't predict the collapse of their own civilization.


Oh! But their civilization didn't end, they just flew back to their home planet!! ! =D


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08 Aug 2008, 2:00 pm

Proposed by ninnies and fruitcakes.
Which ain't to say that our stupiity won't have
got us into lots more trouble by that date.



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08 Aug 2008, 2:32 pm

"In alignment with the galactic core"? What's that even mean?

Look: Our solar system, like every other one in the Milky Way Galaxy, orbits the galactic core (and its associated supermassive black hole, which would seem to be necessary to the formation of stars in the spiral arms - has to do with density waves, but I won't go into that here). We're about two-thirds of the way out from the center of the disk, and complete one orbit about once every 200,000 years or so.

As a planet in a system in this galaxy, we are always "in alignment" with the core of the galaxy. It's implicit in the nature of the beast.

And if the Mayans were so great at predicting future sociological shifts, they should have predicted the arrival of the Spaniards - certainly a massive sociological shift in post-Colombian Central America...


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08 Aug 2008, 2:56 pm

This "galactic alignment" thing is no more than the Sol system crossing the galactic equator. A lot of folks seem to be looking at it as the dawning of a "New Age" or even advent of a "Technological Singularity", which is...

Wikipedia wrote:
"... a theoretical future point of unprecedented technological progress, caused in part by the ability of machines to improve themselves using artificial intelligence."

Much ado about nothing.



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08 Aug 2008, 3:01 pm

The Mayans were brutal and their calendar amazing. Of several civilizations having arrived at the same approximate date namely 12-21-2012, the Mayans are the most notable. We could speculate on how or why they appeared to be so obsessed with counting as to devise the most complicated and precise calendar, light years ahead of any other civilization in recorded history, including our own. There is some evidence the poles are shifting. When it has happened in past, it was accompanied by catastrophic events. It would take a proper scientist to sift fact from fiction, and I am not that. But I try to read, research and keep an open mind. I believe there are several dimensions and the Mayan calendar may be correlated with other dimensions. Again speculation.

The Bible is less specific about a date but describes an event or series of events which constitute Armageddon. Not a few Bible scholars believe the time of Armageddon is approximately now. We're less than 6 and 1/2 years away from the end of the Mayan calendar. In the Bible there is some reference to a shortening of days so that the sufffering of the saints under the alter might be lessened. This could be experienced as an accelerating of time so that more events are crammed into a 24 hour period. If time is "compressed" in this way an evolutionary event could conceivably occupy a shorter time frame....
For example, what might normally occur in 400 years might be compacted into a 20 year time frame.

In terms of end of the world prophecy...
While what we know about the Mayans doesn't lead us to any specific conclusions other than the ending of several coinciding cycles, the earth in alignment with Milky Way Galactic Center, and the fact that their calendar ends on December 21, 2012...if you do the research you will see that everything in their calculations points to a Radical Shift of some sort. Most likely this shift will constitute a general Change in Consciousness.

Just as an electron can jump to a different orbit in its journey around the nucleus of an atom, it is quite possible that what is happening now on planet Earth is an analogous event in terms of a shift in consciousness. A quantum leap?

Also of some import. The Bible indicates that in the Last Days, there will be those who cry out to God to strike them dead. The implication being that everyday life has become so grievous that even death is preferred. Therefore even if 12-21-2012 doesn't mark the end of existence or of life as we have known it....there might be an increase in suicides as some of us find it difficult to make the quantum leap in consciousness. It's also possible that the vehicle for our consciousness to outpicture - our human form - will be quickened to a lightbody as our planet evolves into a higher dimensional frequency.

String and M Theory (and there is another formula superceding M Theory) support multiple dimensions but mainstream physicists scoff at the notion. Whether dimensions beyond three are actually real remains to be seen but interested parties might follow the trail of bread crumbs. I'm suggesting not only did the Mayans believe in multiple dimensions but the legacy of their ingenious calendar may provide a type of simplified conceptual image of those other dimensions, anchored as they may well be, into cyclical galactic phenomena. At the very least we may gain valuable insights from the Mayan approach to cosmological time keeping.

If we could measure time as the Mayans did perhaps we would be delighted at the prospect of a Cataclysmic Event heralding the awakening and evolutionary matriculation of homosapiens. Our destiny will likely be either total annihilation or a giant leap in evolutionary advancement.



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08 Aug 2008, 3:05 pm

*Correction*
4 and 1/2 years NOT 6 and 1/2 years !



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08 Aug 2008, 3:19 pm

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08 Aug 2008, 3:19 pm

alba wrote:
The Mayans were brutal and their calendar amazing...

<Several disconnected and irrelevant subtopics later...>

alba wrote:
... Our destiny will likely be either total annihilation or a giant leap in evolutionary advancement.

Premise: Brutal Mayans made an amazing calendar.
Conclusion: We're all going to die ... or not.

Hpmh! Some prophesy!

:shrug:



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08 Aug 2008, 3:34 pm

Fnord wrote:
alba wrote:
The Mayans were brutal and their calendar amazing...

<Several disconnected and irrelevant subtopics later...>

alba wrote:
... Our destiny will likely be either total annihilation or a giant leap in evolutionary advancement.

Premise: Brutal Mayans made an amazing calendar.
Conclusion: We're all going to die ... or not.

Hpmh! Some prophesy!

:shrug:


I thought all that was a little odd too. What was all that about the Mayans and a 4th dimension?



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08 Aug 2008, 4:09 pm

And what does any of this have to do with autism? Shouldn't this be in the Random Discussion or maybe PPR or something?



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09 Aug 2008, 11:18 pm

Perhaps it was an interest point to see how autistic people, with a logical rather than emotional view on the world, viewed it.

But yeah, I agree, this really belongs in Random Discussion.

However, I digress.

I think the world's just going to go through a major shift. Whether we go on a different people than when we were before, or we go up in a cataclysmic catastrophe remains to be seen.

I believe it's going to be a positive movement. We'll come out of this and many of the things that defined our lives will vanish in short order, if not overnight.

I may be wrong, but every time I've heard of these prophecies, the words "as we know it" usually fit in somewhere. It's not like we're ALL going to die - but those who survive would go on, but never be the same.

That's what I believe and I'm sticking by it until a meteorite lands on my house.


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