SciFi : reasons it's so popular with Aspies/geeks

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19 Aug 2008, 6:39 pm

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I don't understand why everyone isnt into it.
Because 90% of Science fiction is crud. Of course, 90% of everything is crud. Sturgeon is the MAN!


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19 Aug 2008, 6:50 pm

Although I enjoy some sci-fi, I prefer the Science channel over sci-fi any day.



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19 Aug 2008, 7:48 pm

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No warning, actually; the light from the explosion (their first clue) would reach them only a few moments before the explosion itself. No time to escape, even with superluminal drives - the only way to escape death by nova is not to be within a couple of lightyears of the nova to begin with.


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As for the lightspeed limit, remember that it applies in Einsteinian space; postulate some method of achieving access to another space (while bringing along your own laws of physics for your ship, so everyone can stay alive), and you can go FTL in that continuum. (Star Trek brought up two methods of doing this - in James Blish's novel Spock Must Die! they used a trick involving Hibbert space, which has as many dimensions as you need to solve a particular problem, to beam Spock halfway across the quadrant by FTL transporter; in one Next Generation episode, they explained that the "subspace" the ship traveled through in warp drive was in fact one particular subspace domain of a larger superspace "sheaf", and that the "warpfield" is a way of dragging a little bit of their own space into subspace with them. This was also supposed to be why subspace radio works so much faster than ships; sending a message uses less energy than moving a massive object, so it's possible to access more energetic subspace domains with radio.)


hmm; related to that doen't Warp Drives simply compress space ahead of the ship and expand space behind it? I remember some NASA site saying that basically.

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"Wormholes" (Einstein-Rosen bridges) have two major flaws: 1) According to the theory that predicts them, they'd be one-way only, and 2) the input end is a black hole, and would shred anything approaching it down to its fundamental quarks on the way in. Tidal stresses are a b***h when you have a gravity well that steep.


would anti-gravity engines that are strong enough to keep a ship intact from accelerating from nearly static to fast enough to go halfway around the galaxy in hours? (say ships in Star Wars, at least small ships. I remember a Star Wars comic where the Millennium Falcon got a ship close enough to a black hole that the Star Destroyer broke apart, but the guy who posted that on his site (Star Wars Technical Commentaries written by an astrophysicist who analyzed Star Wars and did calcs) suggested the ship had too much power to other parts of the ship, like turbolasers I believe? Sorry if it doesn't make sense or constructed rightly.


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19 Aug 2008, 11:48 pm

Well, antigravity requires gravity to be a force, like electricity or magnetism, rather than a field effect of mass on space/time (as Einstein seems to describe, but that's in General Relativity, not Special - Special is the one with the lightspeed limit, and the best experimental evidence so far). Assuming you could generate sufficient antigravitons, one might be able to slide pretty close to the event horizon of the hole without being destroyed - you'd better be prepared to reset your calendar when you get out of there, but you could survive (cf Andromeda) - but not through one. Theoretically, the Falcon, being a smaller ship, could tolerate a closer approach to a singularity than an Imperial Star Destroyer, but not much closer. (On the other hand, holding a Star Wars story to the limits of real physics is hardly fair, is it?)

A better Star Wars use of the properties of black holes came in one of the Yuuzhan Vong novels. The Vong used a point-defense system that generated quantum black holes to swallow up incoming laser fire, and later to disable hyperdrives (apparently, they won't work too close to a gravitational point-source). One of the heroes (don't recall who at the moment) was being chased by a Vong ship after dropping out of hyperspace. They got into a circular chase around the singularity - then the pilot angled several shots around the hole, using its intense gravity well (with its consequent distortion of space/time, and thus light beams) to deflect the laser blasts toward the Vong from an unexpected direction...


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20 Aug 2008, 1:02 am

I only like Doctor Who and Torchwood, oh, and Primeval.
I think SciFi makes me feel not so weird, like if you think you're weird, look at that Dalek on the TV! :D



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20 Aug 2008, 1:09 am

EX TERM I NATE!



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20 Aug 2008, 2:05 am

i think sci fi is lame. when i choose my entertainment, i want to relate to it in at least some way. the less connection to it i have, the lower my attention span goes.



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20 Aug 2008, 2:31 am

I love it because I can connect to it more so then the other genere



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20 Aug 2008, 7:41 pm

Eggman wrote:
EX TERM I NATE!

EXTERMINIEREN! EXX-TERR-MINIEREN! Because German Daleks rock.


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